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>I just want to put the thought out there that the end fate and maybe even the point of successful Deconstruction is Reconstruction.
Couldn't possibly agree more with you there. So where to start? With the society, the individual?

My background is shaped by readings of those postmodernists Peterson is always complaining about. I sensed that, indeed, things on the Left had gone too far. Like a dumbass, I switched over to the Right. Predictable, but ultimately disappointing.

Now I find Peterson compelling because your individuality is all one has to work with, perhaps. It can be conjectured an infinite number of ways, which is a blessing as well as a curse...a lot of alt-right stuff deals with this idea of Reconstructing society palingenetically, but is this is only so much more ideology? The alt-right has, perhaps, a claim to victim status but I guess for myself I'm trying to resist the temptations of victim-based or dualistic thinking. Hence the usual recourse to mysticism and nondualism, among other writers and so on who are good at dealing with questions of desire, self and other, and so on. For what it's worth.

>For one reason or another this idea is absent or ignored in the putative zeitgeist you described.

Yep. No doubt. I'm fucking perplexed about it! Where *does* that Reconstruction begin? With the society, with the individual? I honestly *don't* know how to begin fixing things or contributing to the groundwork of anything that could be a Reconstruction...but this shit does bother me, which is why I come here and shitpost about it...

Not knowing what to do with society, and feeling sometimes as though we have indeed hit the limits of what can be deconstructed w/r/t the self and subjectivity, I'm interested in these questions of desire and virtue and so on, as perhaps something that can be done, that is worth thinking about. I manifestly do *not* have any answers, but I'm super-interested in the possibility that there may be some questions worth asking or philosophers worth thinking about.

So I like psychoanalysis, for instance, because I have found that when people have a chance to talk about shit you have no idea what's going to come out of their mouths. I do believe Heidegger is right when he talks about the metaphysics of production. Nick Land linked today to an article about the real problem not even being tyranny but just chaos and bloat and entropy. That makes total sense to me. And all of this is the result of insane production, excess production for excessive desires.

I don't know if society itself can be fixed, but maybe it's possible to comport ourselves to the kinds of problems that are eventually, perhaps, going to need fixing...and I attribute these problems to the inevitability of chaotic human desires and the world this subsequently produces...and the need to live with other humans...but those are just my own weird thoughts...

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