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I think there are multiple factors. Most people being dumb is one factor. Just look how many people are making non-arguments like "well if we all thought like you did you'd be less happy. checkmate!". They don't worry about logical implication, they just vaguely feel there's a contradiction in there somewhere. This is the best they can come up with to support their beliefs.

A second is that an average person is much more socially motivated than I am. Maybe they just care about social cohesion more than they do about truth. And they care about stopping other people from disrupting social cohesion more than admitting the truth behind their motivations. (Think about how smart people react to arguments about genetic racial differences. They may not even argue because they know they can't prove what they want to be true, but they'll still condemn bringing up the topic in the first place because objectively hammering out the truth is probably going to be harmful to the collective.)

But there's one last thing I didn't consider until recently. Maybe they legitimately believe their feelings are objective truth because they feel them much more strongly or in a different way than I do. When you see things light isn't occurring in your brain as an abstract concept, it's just something implanted in your brain that your thoughts can't affect. Sensory input seems like objective truth. Maybe to them morality is the same way, implanted in their brain as if they sensed it, like animal instinct. After all animal societies have rules and I question whether they're expressed abstractly through animal language. Maybe their anger and disgust at people disagreeing with the objectivity of their moral feelings is as if someone walked up and started questioning whether light was really informing you of objective truth. Abstractly you might think they technically have a point but in practice it's just so obvious light is a reflection of reality that you'll eventually tell them to fuck off and let you keep using vision to live your life. It could be something similar happening here.

>>13174405
>we have a natural tendency towards rape, murder, stealing
We blatantly do. There have to be rules with threat of retaliatory violence and indoctrination of children that our ethical system is an objective part of reality so those things don't happen as much.

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