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Literally all of the pre-Socratics—it's honestly so fucking embarrassing reading what they unironically believed lmao.
Thank God for Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle!

Can anyone give me a short introduction and some secondary sources about Parmenides, and his metaphysics? Especially concerning his pluralist (in opposition to a monist) epistemology.

Hello friends. I'm finally doing it: I'm starting with the Greeks, specifically with the pre-Socratics. Doing so seems prudent for understanding the full breadth of Greek thought, and to prepare me for the works of Plato and Aristotle. I'd like to know which thinkers are required reading and which are extraneous of the Loeb Library's 9 volumes on the Early Greeks, which survey the following thinkers:

Pherecydes
Thales
Anaximander
Anaximenes

Xenophanes
Heraclitus

Pythagoras
Hippasus
Philolaus
Eurytus
Archytas
Hicetas
Ecphantus

Parmenides
Zeno
Melissus
Empedocles
Alcmaeon
Hippo

Anaxagoras
Archelaus
Diogenes of Apollonia

Leucippus
Democritus

Protagoras
Gorgias
Socrates
Prodicus
Thrasymachus
Hippias

Antiphon
Lycophron
Xeniades

>le epic sophistic math puzzle
>therefore the motion that we see all the time in the world is an illusion
Was Parmenides retarded? Serious question.

>An objection can be issued against an argument retroactively from the point of reference of that argument. This form of objection – invented by the presocratic philosopher Parmenides – is commonly referred to as a retroactive refutation.

Because they haven't actually been debunked. On the contrary, they're the one who debunked everything.

how did he do it?

tits or ass

There is only one thing

>refutes everything
how did he do it?

>defies literally everything you've ever understood to be true
oh no no no no

>completely defies science, logic and reason
based

>I am a sphere
?

Why are ideas like God and the afterlife so controversial? They are both essentially questions and answers to the unanswerable most important parts of being. A. What is the ultimate explanation for being? And B. Is nonbeing possible?

Once you strip these two concepts down to their core questions, it is easy to see they are not so alien and strange at all. Any books that explore god and the afterlife on a meta level?

>I am a sphere
?

have they ever been refuted?

Explain Parmenides to me

explain his philosophy to me

>2500 years later
>still hasn't been refuted

>>17865972
Parmenides and skip the rest, it’s all downhill from there

>>17813655
Based and Pre-Clintonpilled

>All logically possible and logically possible things exist. They are all One thing. Not only that, but all logically possible and impossible timelines exist simultaneously, they are all One. Not only that but all logically possible and impossible Universes and Universes of Universes exist equilocally, and they are all One.
>There exists One thing, and One alone
Can he be refuted?

Why is he so hard to understand? Fuck this guy for exposing me as the brain-poisoned dullard that I am.

ITT: people who were right about everything but who were strawmanned and misunderstood by later people who engaged with their ideas