/lit/ - Literature

If you had to assemble a Bible, a collection of various books by various authors, to become canon for a Greco-Roman religion, what would you choose?

Hesiod is a natural choice, but who else? Ovid? Would you include Homer, either books or hymns or both? Orpheus? Apollodorus? Any books of Plato? Virgil even??

>>23441450
I'm a casual too. Perhaps I shouldn't have said ferocity, but will. Energy.
Prokofiev often does, and certainly Beethoven.

The best and most extreme example I can think of is Vivaldi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgbkvaLy3Lg

For Mahler's case, I'd say Holst did the "ferocity" thing better than him - but Mahler overall is superior. Though, I do love Jupiter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gu77Vtja30c

Why does the narrator in Zorba the Greek sound homosexual? Is it just a cultural difference that I'm ignorant of, or was Kazantzakis writing homoerotic relationships?

>>21919220
>I would rather forcibly suspend my disbelief than try to cope with what I don't like
Wisdom

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>>21876698
But "belief" is a foundational concept in epistemology and "meaning" isn't far off. Both of them, I'm sure, have been interpreted in many different ways. Therefore, it does make sense to clarify the percipitant ambiguity as Peterson seems to attempt to do, never with any follow up from anyone. "God" too, given the Jungian psychological reduction of God. Same when belief under one theory is reduced simply to what is implied by ones behavior. Is the root of this bizarre reaction to Jordan here simply because people don't understand what he's saying... or do they think perhaps that he's asking "It depends what you mean by x, y and z" rhetorically?.. Help me out here /lit/ bros

>>18202136
Do not apologize to the tranny, it was based

>>15210420
Daddy Daddy that stupid king can't just take my own sons waifu away! Can you please please please doom hundreds of good and honorable Greeks to make that stupid king butthurt and make him give my sons waifu back?

We are men: is it not in our best interests to support a society where men rule?
Our feminists suppose that patriarchy harms men because it give us strict gender roles - men are not allowed to cry, not allowed to show emotion, not encouraged to study or produce art, &c. But the slightest knowledge of history that all this is absolutely compatible with the most patriarchal societies - or even especially compatible with patriarchy. Consider the men of the Renaissance, who in all respects were harsher towards their women, were also more prone to weeping or emotion, and great regard for artists.
>This readiness of shedding tears contrasts strongly with the external stoicism of modern civilization; but it is true to Arab character, and Easterns, like the heroes of Homer and Italians of Boccacio, are not ashamed of what we look upon as the result of feminine hysteria — “a good cry.”
So if patriarchy can peacefully coexist with gender roles that allow us to express ourselves, what reason is there to oppose it? It seems to be, in all its aspects, wholly beneficial to men.

>>14175435
sci-fi has nothing over fantasy
stories about gods and heroes and wizards have consistently been the best works of literature since the birth of mankind, beginning from Gilgamesh and Homer - they're out of fashion right now, but that shall pass
science fiction meanwhile is a decadent modern construction
ever notice how sci-fi always has to use the images and words of pre-modernity? star wars has swords, eva has angels, dune has barons, star trek has babylon, etc. does this not suggest a lot

>>13824861

This Ides of December are upon us, /lit/.

Last year, I made a post stating that I would start reading ancient Greek literature from the very beginning. I started on this path officially on the 13th of December, 2016.

>>>/lit/thread/S8828913

I've come back one year later to say that I never gave up on this oath and that I truly did cross over the point of no return. Since then my reading habits have increased, I used to read sparingly a couple times a week, now I've sat down every single day of the year to read. I still am very ambitious to cultivate this knowledge to be able to begin reading Plato with some decent context, I still seek virtue in my life. This pursuit had an effect on my self as well, I've stopped many of the bad habits and vices that has crippled my ability in the past. I've changed from being youthful and carefree into a chaste hermit in one whole calendar year.

I did not expect to spend my entire first year reading Homer.

The reading order structure stayed the same though, I began with Apollodorus' Library. It was a good primer for getting familiar with Mythology, but it still is a collection of second hand/third hand summaries. After that, I read Homer beginning with the Iliad. Between the Iliad and Odyssey I read 'War and the Iliad', a compilation of writings from Simone Weil (love her), and Rachel Bespaloff. I read Strauss' 'The Trojan War', boring pop-his book. I read 'The Homeric Hero' by Seth Benardete, a great read, highly recommended. I was following the flowcharts posted on /lit/, but I abandoned those flowcharts quickly after the Odyssey. I read the Odyssey and then Finley's 'World of Odysseus'. Finley was an eye opening author, he introduced me into the scholarly study of Homer, referencing Gilbert Murray's 'Rise of the Greek Epic'. I bought it out of curiosity and enjoyed the book immensely. I went back to Homer himself and read the Loeb edition of 'The Homeric Hymns', and the original Greek text sparked my interest in the Greek language itself. I began studying the Greek alphabet and now have a good grasp of basic vocabulary and pronunciation. From there, I read some more secondary texts, too many to list (Chadwick's 'The Heroic Age', Cambridge Companion of Homer, Schein's 'The Mortal Hero', Nagy, Vernant, etc, etc).

Right at this moment I am rereading the Iliad and Odyssey all over again just to see if my impression of the great poet has changed in a year. For the next year, I plan on finishing Homer, even though there is a pile of unread books on Homer sitting on my desk, I promise I will read Hesiod next year. I plan on starting to learn the Homeric Greek Dialect and to eventually be able to read Homer in the original text (then Attic, then Koine). I've also taken an interest in music, and will be starting Violin lessons next year. At this point, I feel like I am aeons away from Plato, I could spend my whole life on Homer, but I have to keep moving.

Apologies for the blogpost, thank you.

>>10344568
OP here, I am already immersing myself with Greek text, I have some Loeb books and I've learned the Greek alphabet and pronunciation that way, but I need a good step towards greek.

>>10344757
Should I begin with Koine Greek? Is that the most accessible?