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>>16102847
>>16102938
>on Heraclitus
Heraclitus' legacy largely lives on through Plato. His ideas are probably not Egyptian, but I will explain how he is relevant.

The Analogy of the Divided Line is essentially the keystone for the vast body of Plato's work and metaphysics. He has reconciled the framework of Heraclitus and Parmenides into one holistic system of Being and Becoming. Within this mortal life we are forever within the realm of Becoming, but never achieve Being. Being exists in the realm of immortality and perfection/ideality beyond materiality and form.
"Visible only to the eye of the mind."
>on Persia
There are certainly Persian influences, though none of them can be definitively proven.
Beside Greece and Persia both sharing Indo-European culture, it was said in legend that Pythagoras had also gone to learn the Mysteries of Chaldea and there was possibly initiated by Magi. Beside this, some had also believed that Plato's Myth of Er was a retelling of Zoroaster, as stated by Clement of Alexandria.

>>15841837
Well... thanks for demonstrating the importance of actually reading supplementary texts I guess, anon. Sorry about what that implies based on what you said here,
>if you are moderately intellegent plato is very straight forward

>>15779867
Except it is. The ideal Realm of Being is certainly supernatural, as depicted in the Divided Line, in the Republic, which you didn't read.
“Plato being first and foremost a metaphysician with a sort of religious system would not have us study anything but metaphysics and a kind of mystic religion.” Woodbridge Riley, From Myth to Reason, p. 47

>>15696033
>ideas from our world of perception.
LMFAO retard.
I already fucking told you "IDEA" as used in that fucking quote IS the FORM. It is a translation of the word from which the whole theory derives.
The dialogue goes as follows, simplified like you're a 1st grader.
>Our knowledge and truth exists with us
>But the "ideas," we cannot know
Allow me to substantiate this.
In English:
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0174%3Atext%3DParm.%3Asection%3D134b
In Greek:
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.+Parm.+134b&fromdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0173
The word used in Greek is εἴδους, which means "that which is seen: form, shape"
You can also verify this on that site, if you don't believe me.
>That our perception is incomplete doesn't mean we are free to believe in whatever lunacy we can cook up.
I happen to subscribe to exactly the same view as Plato.
You just didn't recognize it because you don't know what you're talking about.