/lit/ - Literature

>>16849230
i haven´t read Schoppie yet but does he have an opinion on the greek muses? what does he think of them?

>>15818242
I get your point and obviously technology isn't all that bad. But the way it grows exponentially far beyond our understanding is really bad from my point of view. Let's take your example for instance, sure writing a letter would have been harder and we would have probably never exchanged, but here we are only giving quickly our opinions not really putting any thoughts in it. Sure it's fruitful and interesting, but far less than an epistolary relation. Look at the books that are made of letter (e.g. the letters between Jaspers and Heidegger), they are really interesting because there is a lot of effort here and frankly I doubt people write emails like these.

>Write about a completely inconsequential profession like whaling
>milk it for every single metaphor that you possibly can
>have beautiful prose and suspenseful plot
>literary masterpiece

>Write about something barely relevant to the outcome of WWII like the V-2 Rocket
>milk it for every single metaphor that you possibly can
>have beautiful prose and suspenseful plot
>literary masterpiece

Ok /lit/ give me a foundation that doesn’t seem like it would be a very good story on the surface, and I’ll give you the next great American Novel by next year.

>>12680280
>writesinscriptiocontinua

I'm a visual artist and never found anything more motivating than a)non-fiction/fiction about this profession;
plus b)aesthetic imagery-doused /lit/, would be more than appreciated

but nothing too philosophical on the nature of beauty and such (kant) as I really can't learn from those, it needs to be more like, "beautiful writing for beauty's sake" or "On being an artist/poet"

what the hell you made it this far, I have enjoyed Christian theology so much when the imagery is used for aesthetic's sake, so it doesn't have to be secular in nature. also I'm Russian, so you can include those as well.

anything similar to?:
Emerson - The Poet
Oscar Wilde- Dorian Grey + essays
Paradise Lost

I realise I'm probably asking a lot, but I'm a regular to /ic/ and actually wish I was more /lit/ for this board.

>>9346824

hey, thanks, man--just made an account. gonna check it out. you seem pretty cool--hope to see you on there...

>>8481648
Thanks for the warning. But, to be honest, isn't that not too different from the wandering books in the Odyssey? IIRC Hyperborea and Lotus-eaters were like a page each.
>>8482198
It's a shame that the Roman "national epic" was just a pastiche of a Greek author in a Greek meter. It's a shame that Ennius's work hasn't survived; that at least was in a native Latin meter.
I really should read Lucan and see how he compares to Virgil.
Then again, the idea of a "national epic" is kind of problematic. It's one thing to say that a culture has exalted a certain poem or novel to the core of its education and frame of reference. It's another to say that this work somehow embodies the ""spirit"" of the nation. If one looks at Homer, clearly these values- be they those of the depicted culture at large or those of Achilles' and Homer's critique of it- and this culture are not at all those of the classical Greeks. Rather, as Plato and the tragedians reveal, in spite of other statements depicting Homer as the source of wisdom, they more used Homer as a frame of reference, being the story everyone knows, imposing their own values onto him.
I'd say the "classical Greek spirit", as unscientific as that must be, is probably much better represented by the Athenian tragedians than by the illiterate Aryan anarcho-monarchist Homer.

1. Copy a poem into a word processor
2. Remove the line breaks so it looks like prose
3. Read it

If you can still tell it's a poem, it's a poem. If it turns into prose, it's not a poem.

Compare a stanza from Lord Byron's Don Juan:

>Most epic poets plunge 'in medias res' (Horace makes this the heroic turnpike road), and then your hero tells, whene'er you please, what went before—by way of episode, while seated after dinner at his ease, beside his mistress in some soft abode, palace, or garden, paradise, or cavern, which serves the happy couple for a tavern.

With Whitman's As I Ponder'd In Silence:

>As I ponder'd in silence, returning upon my poems, considering, lingering long, a Phantom arose before me with distrustful aspect, terrible in beauty, age, and power, the genius of poets of old lands, as to me directing like flame its eyes, with finger pointing to many immortal songs, and menacing voice, "What singest thou?" it said, "Know'st thou not there is but one theme for ever-enduring bards? And that is the theme of War, the fortune of battles, the making of perfect soldiers."

Is poetry dead?

Because I can do
that
for virtually any modern
"poet" you care
to name.