/lit/ - Literature

*crack* ah, stream of consciousness. now that's a good literary style *sips*

>“ohhohoh that darn Yossarian, what WILL he think of next?”

>>11549241
>the human soul
Now that's a literary expression a man can respect and admire.

>>11508067
>What books does /lit/ praise that doesn't meet the basic standard?
Most of them? What's the point of naming them, considering you unironically will say
>Wanna know how I know you're from reddit? Because you take our memes seriously.
Not only am I not from Reddit, but I have no doubt I've been on here far longer than you have, and that I've read a lot more books than you have as well.
>Apart from some meme-works, /lit/ is one of the most elitist boards of literature you will find.
Pic related.
>His prose is serviceable to sub-par
Wrong.
>his characterization is laughably thin
Strike two.
>and he offers no underlying thematic driving narrative
Strike three, but I'm not surprised, because you do seem as enough of a retard to bash something as simple-minded genre fiction and then fail to even understand that same thing on the most basic level.
Truly /lit/ material over here, part of
>the most elitist boards of literature you will find.
As for the rest,
>He lacks originality.
No shit? I could've sworn I've seen that map before...
>Black Company, Conan, Farfhd and Grey Mouser, etc.
Trash, pulp, pulp. Completely unrelated.
>He's praised for 'revolutionizing' the fantasy genre when in fact there have been countless instances of 'gritty' fantasy for decades
Well, yes, because you see, there's more to it than just writing about rape and violence. In fact, that isn't at all what Martin does well, nor what he's praised for. But I could see why a simpleton like you might make an honest comparison between Conan and ASoIaF, two things that have more in common individually with fucking South Park than they do with each other.
>Oh, and there's also the fact that HE WILL NEVER FINISH THE SERIES.
Who cares? How does that undermine what exists?
>You can't exactly be known as a pioneer and visionary if your vision isn't complete.
Objectively wrong, not much more to be said.
> IT's why no one discusses Dostoyevsky's incomplete sequel to The Brothers K
No, that's because brothers Karamazov wasn't in need of a sequel. Just like Berserk needed to fucking end at the Eclipse. But sometimes, even talented authors make shit decisions. Who knew?
>Incomplete works can't be taken seriously.
>I don't take the Iliad seriously
>I don't take the Bhagavad Gita seriously
It's okay, it's not your fault. You never asked to be this stupid.

>>11453531
He's a boring bland brainlet. Dishonest, uncharitable. Consign him and Mr. Peter Hitchens to the bin. The fact that these two have propped themselves up as the big guys of 'conservatism' without any opposition shows how dead and rotten modern day Anglophone 'conservatism' is. Their motto: "At least I'm not David Cameron".

Read these instead: Elizabeth Anscombe, Michael Oakeshott, George Grant.

>good

>>11418226
I'll never get behind these arguments.
>God is a projection of human anthropological and psychological needs
Nowhere in here is it clear that because a thing is produced by need it can't be true. In fact, it's possible that all conscious creatures, regardless of whether they're located, might feel a need to project these sorts of things.
>there's a psychological explanation behind it, therefore it's not true
Every time.

To keep it short, I've always wanted to write a story about a chad that everyone underestimates but who happens to have the mind of a philosopher and the soul of a teenage girl. It would be perhaps historical, perhaps fantasy, and by the end he would go full Metzen, fall to the dark side, and murder everyone.

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>be open-minded, knowledge-seeking intellectual
>get offended at some minute profession of "anti-intellectualism"
>swear off author's works because of it
hmm... i think you read about "anti-intellectualism" being a bad thing on some fascist checklist and dont actually care about human experience, culture or thought...

>>11375381
>t.

>2018
>psychoanalysis
>not even freud

>updike
>cheever
>bellow
>roth
>mailer
>salinger

>that 24 year old boomer who reads translations of literature

why? you do realize that its aesthetic value is inevitably lost in translation, right? are you simply reading for historical purposes? so you can show everyone how worldly you are for having read some other culture's product? whatever the reason--it's safe to say that you do not love literature. you can always find something in your native language to read and thus truly engage with a piece of art.

all bloat-core that people namedrop to sound smart. franzen has already made it as a writer and doesn't need to impress anyone, hence he can be forthright about his reading palate. people like yourself, who will never write anything worthy of attention, need books like mason & dixon to legitimize you as an intellectual. reading itself (an act of consumption) becomes an art for the pseud since he can not create anything beautiful.

>that 24 year old boomer janitor who deletes all the fun boomer threads

what are some books about coping?

>>11304503
>I enjoy the Federalist as a news site.

>that 20 year old boomer whose memory is so shot he cant just make mental notes

>that 19 year old boomer who buys paperback books
>that 19 year old greatest generation-er who buys hardback books

>>11291701
>that 19 year old boomer who posts pictures of his guns online

>That 21 year old boomer self-diagnosing as a Platonist after reading Republic

>>11275425
>that far-left/right boomer who partakes in russian propaganda campaigns