/lit/ - Literature

I found /pol/ during the election, but left once the hype died down and the general retardation set in. Prefer /his/, /lit/, /sci/, and sometimes /mu/ and /v/. The only time I reveal my power level is in race realism threads and whenever some random JQ question veers over to the side of "Jews don't control anything" (obviously blaming Jews for everything is stupid but it is interesting that they are over represented in positions of power even when factoring in merit). Otherwise I keep my autism to myself and just talk about literature and maybe philosophy.

I like /lit/ more than other forums for the diversity of opinions. It keeps my mind sharp and my horizons broad. Plus there's funny shitposting happening almost every day. This place has encouraged me to read so much it's not even funny. Eventually I'll have to leave though, I feel like I've exhausted everything novel that this website has to offer.

>>12755404
Even when accounting for higher Jewish average IQ, there are not enough American Jews to explain their disproportionate representation in the USA by merit alone.

>>12588574
>I really don't bother thinking about the black white IQ gap.
ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away

>I think even if it exists
it does. about an entire standard deviation of difference in the USA, more across the globe.

>it bears no practical consequences
IQ is the most valuable socioeconomic indicator we have of all sorts of outcomes. if you were to replace every white man with a black man of comparative IQ in the USA, all else held equal, you could measure the loss of economic output to the tune of trillions of dollars.

>I have no doubt that some people in PC culture finagle data. But you know what? All of fucking psych does the same shit.
there's something sinister about an entire culture of manipulating data to suit a particular ideological narrative. tweaking the numbers out of the selfish desire to get published is far more petty if anything.

>unless you really care about there being an IQ gap?
anyone who cares about living in an advanced society would. what do you think is the minimum average IQ requirement to live in a free society?

>Smells like some racism masquerading as a call for honesty to me.
I would have no problem allowing non-white but high IQ immigrants and pushing trades on predominantly black schools to maximize outcomes for all backgrounds. I don't think we should treat people as second-class citizens for their IQ. but it doesn't mean that I can ignore the impact on IQ in an increasingly cognitive-demanding age.

>People don't change their minds on these issues bc they're hit with arguments on 4chan
funnily enough, "race" (misnomer, cline is better) realism is probably the most convincing out of all of the heterodox crap you'll encounter here.

for shame, I thought you would be more rational on this issue instead of going for the canned shaming response.

lol Kraut and Tea got BTFO'd so hard in his debates against JF and TheAltHype that it convinced me to become somewhat of a race realist.

it all came just as I had finished a string of classes in psychology, statistics, genetics, and molecular biology, so I was able to figure out that 1) Kraut had laughably ZERO knowledge of what he was talking about, even on the irrelevant "nitty gritty" details that he brought in to bolster his appeal; 2) Kraut's team of academics were either too sloppy or stupid to correct the litany of mistakes made by Kraut; and 3) there is significant evidence for "race realism", although race, in the way it is socially constructed, is probably far from the best category to truly understand genetic differences between populations and their impact on phenotypic distributions.

I would be afraid to show my face online if I were that much of a retard that I ended up torpedoing my own career in order to fight le ebil nahzees

>>11301839
Another dishonest leftist trying to avoid the point. Nobody has a problem with homosexuals having homosexual desires. But acting on them is different.

>>11292431
>And you can't guess why social constructs would have an effect on self reporting?
You must have totally missed the point. If you sort individual genetic profiles in order to maximize in-group similarities and out-group differences, i.e., sort people into races, you end up matching social classifications of race.

Still didn't catch that? Here's one last attempt at explaining. If you tell a machine to sort individuals into races by genetic composition, you get almost a carbon copy of racial classifications in modern society. Race is a "social construct" that is based off of biological realities of population genetics. End of story.

>No one denies that, just the effects are negligible when talking about anything bigger than lactose tolerance or melatonin levels.
t. science denier who ignores twin studies that put the heritability of of intelligence at ~0.50, which is probably an underestimate given that environmental factors are influenced by people who share similar genes.

Almost every human trait has been shown to be susceptible to evolutionary pressures, with different populations having different genotypic and phenotypic distributions according to the selective pressures of their given environments. Lactose tolerance, height, metabolism, the type of athleticism, skin color, sickle cell anemia, etc. All of these traits vary largely between populations. And you expect me to believe that intelligence is any different? Why?

>That's rich for a guy who used cows to argue against social constructs.
I don't think you understand what a social construct is if you think calling race "a social construct" is a potent argument against race realism. Social constructs are real, especially when they match scientific facts related to evolutionary science. You can measure the impact of human biodiversity to the tunes of trillions of dollars when you engage in, let's say, demographic replacement.

>>11285997
I've seen averages for Ashkenazi Jewish IQ range from 104 to 117, standard deviations that range from 10 to 15, etc. If the distribution of Ashkenazi IQ is anywhere but at the very top of estimates, then they are wholly over-represented in positions of power by merit alone. And given that the average IQ of Israel is measured in the low 90s, US Ashkenazi IQ probably isn't going to be 117 with 15 standard deviation. Besides, when you choose some other metric, such as the distribution of SAT scores, you still find Jews to be overrepresented relative to Asians, which are underrepresented, and non-Jewish whites, which are extremely underrepresented.

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>>11290317
I wonder if there are any Americans interested in having a non-meme discussion. Pic unrelated. It's a test. Don't fail it.