/lit/ - Literature

>>20839627
Hitler was able to almost single handedly restore Germany and hold off against the entire world for several years wtf you mean inefficient you shit head if he wasn't busy doing meth and stayed pragmatic instead of autisticly obsessing over every thing he could have won seized a shit load of the east for oil and to colonize and been done.

Italy would have been impressive if they didn't waste resources on making a sand empire to appease Mussolinis ego. God bless that silly dago, he's a saint in heaven, but if he didn't waste his energy on fucking Ethiopia things would have been great for him. His biggest mistake was not shooting badoglio for incompetence and for trusting the british when they assured him they wouldn't condemn his invasion.

Japan was basically already Fascist and ww2 was just a formality. Shinto is the religious embodiment of Fascist values in it's caricature form.

Besides Fascism as an ideology is literally just "me ne frego". It was designed to be an anti party and to be reactionary. It was originally parliamentarian then oligarchical then whatever the fuck. It's the exact opposite of "inefficient" because the whole concept is deisgned around flexibility because the old ways cause nations to talk themselves to death, that's what Mussolini says in My Rise and that's what he wrote in Doctrine of Fascism. The blueprint of Fascism is men being men in slightly homoerotic hypermasculine ways and that's it. It can be democratic, it can be dictatorial, it works either way.

That's why I hate you fucking fake academics that pretend to know what your talking about when all you do is watch some shitty youtube video and maybe read 2 books. You want to learn what a Fascist is? Go run a mile, deadlift and throw the football around with your abnormally large family. Maybe some exercise will fix those soft saggy tits and make you look like a man. Nerd. Post bicep or I won't take any refutation seriously.

>>19410770
Sure I do. I'm well aware of the .pdf
I prefer physical copies. Easier for me to read, and doesn't rely on me having power to access it.
Problem?

Professional NEET here, I will elucidate you.
People will often talk of the depressed-suicidal disgusting NEET and others of the 'comfy' NEET, they both exist and there is a single thing separating them.

Friends.

I was a typical depressed-suicidial NEET, I got friends and now I am unironically a happy comfy NEET and have been for years, its not complicated. Very basic human psychology.

>>18250723
Stoicism

>>12521327
no, Mussolini

>>11829234
it unironically made me want to join the military and deepened my fascistic beliefs

>starship troopers

>Dubois' letter

mfw

>>11453295

>>11440759
i have given an answer, you have given nothing.

What's a good book to learn about his regime before the war?

>>10650968
Read through Giovanni Gentile, then the Manifesto of Futurism by Tomaso Marinetti. A lot of Italian futurists supported Mussolini.

If you want more of the ideological roots of Italian economically look at integralist and national syndicalist movements

>>10356582
Already read that Russian shit. Gonna reroll.

>>9265751
Hey, fella, sorry to get heated, but I was merely responding to accusations in kind--plus, the butthurt was pretty enjoyable for me.

Yes, I absolutely agree, most do contain all those techniques (disregarding Haiku), which is why I said that Williams' commentary was so impactful: in the face of radical Concrete poetry, which you referenced, especially the subsets of Alphabetic and Letter "poetry," Williams is establishing boundaries.
And of course there is great poetry outside of the Anglosphere! God knows. I'm slowly working my own self towards a multilingual existence (a few months ago I tried to start on French and Basque in at the same time, having Spanish already in my cap, but have since taken a respectful hiatus from Basque--fascinating, but completely alien to me).
It's funny that you reference Meschonnic in your next post along with that statement, though (if that was you--can never tell). I agree with him, as should be plain in the rest of my posts, that form is absolutely inseparable from content. They define each other. I only believe that conformance to adamantine structures is needlessly confining. Iambs were fit to love poetry because they mimic a heartbeat--they shouldn't be shoehorned into a poem on existential angst (as I've seen done) just because it sounds archaic.

Also, I was using meter in the most literal sense: the rhythmic structure of verse. Meter creates and is inseparable from rhythm. I can't speak for the Aztecs, of course, but Sanskrit as a language is based inherently around compound words and their specific relation to one another. Originally a oral tradition with very few definitive writings, Sanskrit was actually set definitively into the form it is today with post-Vedic texts like the Gita because they were penned in a specific way. But despite that grammatical connection, the Gita's dialogic form allowed a structure more conducive to verse. The structure is is fluid, manifesting in distinctly different ways when faced with varying emotions, situations, and speakers. It consistently morphs itself to the situation. So yes, the Gita's rhythm is inherently different from what would be possible in an English translation due to Sanskrit's nature, but the meter is still its most definitive feature.

And yeah, you're right, this is probably the best conversation I've ever had on /lit/.

>>9099447

does this board have a disproportionate number of british people?

oxford btw

what is the difference between ideology and hegemony?

In the Navy. Working in an emergency room currently.
I have a few poems good enough to be published and im working on a novel thats bound to be dope because I am dope.

>tfw higher than 100wpm

>muh Italy

>>5663611

I

On the metal station chairs
I felt foreign, and uncomfortable.
European and hyper-modern.

Three gallants,
chaviness exuded,
straddled themselves on their bikes and

Spoke in a river,
flowing downhill to the gentle curve up
and in water filled with fish, seaweed and speckled with turds.

I sat aface.
I did not envy or admire them,
nor feel superiority or contempt,

They were people, young and bright,
smart though they dare not show it.

And then in a hen-huddle, they scuttled off to a bathroom.
I think as I had heard the word "bine"
as I unwittingly stared into their collective.

II

The morning of thought flew onto me.
I was there to do duty.
To get the hounds off my back, when I meet her, and dance playfully our mouths.
I magnetized to the thought
I sweated a little and dusted the globs of pearls from my foread.

I wandered glances out,
to those yellow ray-fields.
I am not a farm-man, I do not know their name.
The pressure of the wordist.

III

I came to old iron-hand.
It's great station pulled up it's braces from industrial smoke,
used the grey clouds' swelling to luxure itself in the modern.

I jumped out, looked down at the gap.
I felt like Odysseus, looking into the abyss of Hades.

A swift gallop over, and a light canter,
to ask for the verbal maps of the wise train men.

I consulted the oracle who was looking out to the tracks,
he wore a blazon coat, yellow and green, like Apollo, shining.

With a heavy face, and shining head,
he championed an orchard-pig, fiborous and rare,
it's edges a tainted and faded yellow.

"Can I pay ticket on the train?"
"Yes."

Advice wisely given.

>>5464284
Thanks, anon, will check these out.

Keep em coming.

>single, a few dates lined up
>student, looking for grad program in Information Systems before I graduate
>Confederacy of Dunces
>The Pale King

>>3828687
yea, I conflated National Socialism with fascism when I probably shouldn't have. I actually don't know that much about Italian fascism other than that it had a very strong "back to the land" tendency (as a glorification of the rural family model) with a futurist glorification of violence and technology (which is... sort of expressed in moka pots, I guess; there's a nice article on it http://www.ineedcoffee.com/03/mokaexpress/))

here's an image of Mussolini getting some peanut butter off the roof of his mouth, though