/lit/ - Literature

>>7407961
Not him, but some people have the balls to accept that they live their lives by relatively arbitrary rules of thumb that can be reevaluated and aren't based in some cosmic singular truth. It's not something you can change, and honestly it seems to work fine.

>>7407939
>humanism-based
Yes because humanists always agree with one another on important points. Everyone thinks there's something worth killing for.

>>7407928
That's actually pretty cool, but I think the girl in the pic you were calling an old hag is 17 herself.

>>7196923
Pussy is, no joking, one of the best reasons to go to college. I was a total autist in high school but had potential to look good. Got my shit sorted out freshman year and spent the rest of my time there body-surfing on stupid teenage girls. It got to the point where I was getting so much ass that I became worried about society, which is funny to me since the stereotype is that young men dissatisfied with society must be dissatisfied sexually.

>>7073886
>2015
>not owning enough real estate to make a six figure passive income for life
I sure hope you guys don't do this.

>>7059416
First off, these are gross generalizations. I love Plath, Woolf, Austen and Didion. Below are a list of reasons why the most women attractive enough to potentially get by on a man's provision aren't good writers. Hopefully each of these statements is adequately qualified.

They're less likely to have exceptional intelligence or other personality traits (narrower first and second standard deviations from the mean).

Lack of exceptional personality traits means they'll probably write about lame shit everyone's thought of already.

In terms of priorities, women are generally less interested in things that don't contribute directly to making their lives better. Producing a good story or poem is less likely to make a woman's life easier than spending that time keeping a strong hand on her social circle. A man, on the other hand, has plenty of incentive to slave away at esoteric pursuits because if he gets famous at 45 he can still get laid for it.

Women judge men by their storytelling ability and ability to manipulate emotions, so men have a powerful incentive to git gud at that stuff.

The average woman in a first world country is so thoroughly shielded from the way most of the world lives that it isn't funny. It's in basically nobody's interest to toughen a girl up or expose her to West Virginia hillbillies or central American street children. This narrows their range of experience and empathy to encompass only their own homes and places like them.

>>7056865
Because publicly voicing a concise opinion on female sexuality that is anything but flattering will result in monolithic social pressure on every male who comes near it from every woman who hears of it. Basically this is the natural result of letting women voice opinions without fear of reprisal, for better or worse.

Third worlders who apply the pimp hand can say whatever they want about women, again, for better or worse.

>>7040711
This is gonna sound like a dick thing to say but I'm going to justify it: Gravity's Rainbow is not written for people who have to slog through it. What I mean by that is that the vast pages of seeming shaggy-dog stories and detailed descriptions are meant to form an overarching sense of the time and place as Slothrop perceives it. If you have to quit in the middle of a chapter, or stress out about not remembering each of these stories, you're not going to get it. The key to reading Gravity's Rainbow and any of Pynchon's longer novels is to be good at remembering names. Seriously, if you tend to leak names, then you're going to be totally confused halfway through anything but Lot 49 and Inherent Vice. Given its length and complex but fast-paced action, GR requires a quick reading speed and excellent comprehension and retention to enjoy to its fullest. ON the other hand, the book IS written in English so if you want to give it a couple of difficult readings feel free.

For those asking what it's about, to me Gravity's Rainbow was an angry book written by someone who had seen too much of the military-industrial complex in its infant stages and wanted to unmask the respectable citizens behind it as monsters, Scooby-Doo style.

>>7014524
Hemingway is the original sincerity. He's very emotionally open and vulnerable in his writing. I've been to war, hunted in Africa and seen a bullfight, so it's not like the stuff he writes about is bullshit.

>>6939512
>your degree/what you're in school for
Biology, B.S.
>your job/what job you hope to get
Novelist, English department professor teaching fiction writing or something like that.

>>6939529
>go back in time and cop that CS degree
No thanks, you people are either the biggest robots or the most insecure kind of normie. I'd get freaked out working exclusively with something manmade.

>>6939615
8/10 breddy gud. Gotta have those languages if you're gonna major in literature. Take some natural science classes or logic.

>>6939622
>theatre, media and film studies
Not gonna make it. Film is an infant-tier art form and theatre people are fucking insane.

>>6911102
>just read "Ada or Ardor" and "Moby Dick" next week.
>Write 5,000 words of a novel a day, like Stephen King
>You aren't a retard, are you?

>>6905465
Yeah, the real counterculture at the moment is neotraditionalism. People who admit out loud that they like certain things about old-school gender roles, economic systems and spirituality, without diluting it with the feel-good veneer that so many of the institutions supposedly promoting traditional values hide behind.

>>6900274
This is sorta the crux of all the controversy in this thread. Austen wrote novels at a time when most novels were, in fact, just entertainment. They were long-winded and slow the same way a soap opera is slow, and for the same reasons. Looking back on these as if they're particularly good is the epitome of praising something because it's old and well-known.

We don't write like Austen for the most part anymore because if we want to drag on an entirely plot-driven story for the entertainment of air-headed women we just broadcast it these days. Romance novels are quite short now, so don't give me that as a counterexample.

>>6892639
You're an asshole, tbh. You really betrayed a kind old man's trust for a shot at some pussy? Dishonourable as fuck.

>>6856618
So there are two symbolic languages we use, verbal and mathematical. NDT is a physicist/astronomer who has spent his entire career focusing on the mathematica while only superficially engaging with the verbal to perform so the numbers on his bank account will get bigger (a mathematical concept he understands very well). Unfortunately, we convery some important concepts like self-awareness with verbal language, and he's missed out on such niceties. This is why you may hear litte grumbles of resentment or jealousy towards STEM from people learned in the humanities but only the rares of luddites would claim scientists and engineers are holding anything back despite not understanding what exactly it is they do.

>>6845445
British fiction about colonization is manly as hell.
Norman Mailer gets into masculinity pretty well with "An American Dream". Joan Didion will make you a better man (through understaniding women reaistically, and not in the feminist way) if you can get into "Play it as it Lays".

>>6837893
You're probably a bad reader or a formalist. GR tells a whacky detective story the way a comic book would if you made prose do the work of the illustrations. It's full of digressions and "lol random" moments that you have to be into for their own sake to enjoy the book. It's like Moby Dick without the pathos.

>>6826251
>written by a woman
>has a point
You know how many of the above statements can be true, anon.

>>6798075
I get it! There's no feminine taste because women let men and marketers determine what they consume!

>>6752612
Not even memeing, but Gravity's Rainbow is analogous in some ways
>huge concept the author/director couldn't totally handle
>large scale, apocalyptic implications
>swings between freaking you out and making your laugh

>inb4 the manga

>>6725153
>You can network with the super rich at universities
>networking with rich people is useful to getting rich yourself
>therefore going to university can be useful to getting rich yourself
That's the most pragmatic approach to whether or not to go to university.

Another point is that using the brain sharpens it, and having a well-regulated mind is good for most things. Studying art demands quite a bit from the brain.

My first point is still the most important. Art is a way of getting inside the minds of thousands of people with very different experiences from your own, multiplying the perspectives one is able to consider. "working more" alone will not do that so one who strives to be successful will strike a balance between working and engaging with art.

I strongly suspect that you're just rationalizing working long hours and never leaving your hometown and feeling guilty for not reading as much as you know you should.

>>6680380
>eating white powder
>cooking
'Merica

>>6646481
Teaching English, writing a novel and trying to make a copypasta that someone will actually copy. She works in the biotech industry. We might move abroad together soon but that's not quite decided.

>>6631464
nice