/lit/ - Literature

>>19178849
>Hildegarde von Bingen
>The Bible
>Martin Luther
>On the Bondage of the Will
>Romans 1:17

>>18739208
The story of Job expands on Ecclesiastes, that in general posits that all people are mired in sin and faced with an incomprehensible God. Job fulfills this pattern by being punished for a morally incomprehensible reason, and then when he is in this state of suffering, he eventually brings himself to curse God in everything but name. As a result we learn that all humans are dependent on God's grace, and have no inherent morality or principles, since Job thought at the beginning of the book that he would never curse God.

In other words the character of Satan in the book really lays out an orthodox argument about man's inherent lack of worth. Satan in Job thus demonstrates his character by being knowledgeable, yet merciless. With God's mercy out of the way, and Satan in control of the scene, Job gets what every man deserves.

We have to judge whether we prefer God's handling of the situation to Satan's. Do we prefer unequal sharing of God's grace, or do we prefer to be all equally miserable under Satan?

>>14961514
Lurker here, also hoping for more of this tomorrow. I don't have much good to say, but I love reading the conversations.
God bless you guys.

>>12464422

>>12158156
>God wants every bit of our lives. That terrifies us to the core.
Yeah, that is a point of it. Are you acquainted with St. John of the Cross' The Dark Night of the Soul or The Cloud of Unknowing?

I'm not a Kierkegaardian.

write what's on your mind

>>11380014
Nietsche can be BTFO, I think, only where it is clearly influenced by Schopenhuer individualism. And nobody wants to be an individualist, I hope. Nietszche kinda got it himself, if you read the posthumous fragments. Anyway:

>Heidegger

Here you will find a. a critic to the metaphysics of Vorstellung. Also his essay on Zarathustra is great for getting over of the Wille zur Macht trap.
Moreover, in Sein und Zeit the description of Sorge as a basis for human Dasein is a great tool to handle individualism and the "dyonisiac" disregard for guilt – and actually one could ultimately argue that Nietzsche's genalogy does not de fact dismantle guilt, as long as it doesn't became resentment.

>Giorgio Colli
This italian scholar is the man who organized Nietzsche's opus. Others – including germans!– translated from what him and Montinari did for the absolutely based Adelphi editor. He wrote a lot about the Greeks and Nietzsche. His book "Dopo Nietzsche" ("After Nietzsche") is a really good critique of Nietzsche's subjectivism, and just generally gives you good insight. I don't know if it got translated. If you are fluent in italian, you can find it on libgen.