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Without having to read the comprehensive list of western philosophy where would I start to understand German Idealism, fitche, schelling Hegel etc? I’ve read Kennys introduction to western philosophy and I’ve read most of Plato, the bible, Spinoza and Descartes. Where now?

So was he basically trying to study the stages of development of human consciousness? Is that what the PoS is focused upon? And is the dialectic related to the exchange of ideas between consciousness? Idk I'm trying to make sense of all this

>>20274051
>§ 10. Still less must this kind of contentment, which holds science in contempt, take upon itself to claim that raving obscurantism of this sort is something higher than science. These apocalyptic utterances pretend to occupy the very centre and the deepest depths; they look askance at all definiteness and preciseness meaning; and they deliberately hold back from conceptual thinking and the constraining necessities of thought, as being the sort of reflection which, they say, can only feel at home in the sphere of finitude. But just as there is a breadth which is emptiness, there is a depth which is empty too: as we may have an extension of substance which overflows into finite multiplicity without the power of keeping the manifold together, in the same way we may have an insubstantial intensity which, keeping itself in as mere force without actual expression, is no better than superficiality. The force of mind is only as great as its expression; its depth only as deep as its power to expand and lose itself when spending and giving out its substance. Moreover, when this unreflective emotional knowledge makes a pretence of having immersed its own very self in the depths of the absolute Being, and of philosophizing in all holiness and truth, it hides from itself the fact that instead of devotion to God, it rather, by this contempt for all measurable precision and definiteness, simply attests in its own case the fortuitous character of its content, and in the other endows God with its own caprice. When such minds commit themselves to the unrestrained ferment of sheer emotion, they think that, by putting a veil over self-consciousness, and surrendering all understanding, they are thus God’s beloved ones to whom He gives His wisdom in sleep. This is the reason, too, that in point of fact, what they do conceive and bring forth in sleep is dreams.
-Lord Hegel

The ceaseless discharge of philosophy.

>>19848683
>face palms from spirit world

Where to start?

Why didn't Hegel call his Dialektik Schneckenlinie?

Where does one start with him?

>>19274902
>>19274956
Abstract thinking is low IQ

My (33F) husband's (35M) career in academic philosophy is ruining our marriage.

My husband and I are both academics. We've been married for 3 years, and been together for 6. He is an academic philosopher and I am a physicist, He has recently expressed displeasure that I've never seriously engaged with his work, Now, I've read a bit of the classics of philosophy, but my husband's work is more in what I'm told is called the "continental" tradition. Unfortunately, everything he's shown me has just seems completely insane.

Here's the problem: his work apparently involves claims about physics that are just wrong, and wrong in a very embarrassing way! I'll admit, I'm a terrible person, but I had never read his thesis before. I tried reading it and it's riddled with talk about for instance the necessary relationship between matter having "extension" and possessing mass. He also talks about the "shape" of fundamental particles. This is obviously nonsensical/wrong; electrons have mass and are point particles (they dont take up space really). In the thesis and some other papers he wrote he seems to think of himself as "scientific" and a "materialist" but his entire idea of what these words mean is stuck in like, outdated 19th century ideas about atoms as little billiard balls flying around in space. I Ve gently tried to help him and explain how he might start to engage seriously with contemporary physics (he has never read a book on the subject and is by his own admission "bad at math"), but he just gets angry with me and explains that Hegel's system is presuppositional and the basis for all possible rational thought so there is no need at all to read other texts in the first place (l have no idea what this means). He will throw out terms like "speculative propositions" but when I ask him to explain what this means or give me examples he just starts giving me more inscrutable jargon that makes no sense. On top of that, he will repeatedly say German phrases or terms that he uses (and pronounces) incorrectly (I am a native speaker) or nonsensically. He claims to understand the language (he doesn't) and tells me that Hegel can only be understood "in the original German" but he clearly cant read the language and when I've tried to read the original texts they make even less sense.

On top of this, his obsession with Hegel himself has reached the point of creepiness. At one point he literally told me that all other work either agrees with Hegel so is redundant, or disagrees with Hegel and is wrong. He keeps a framed picture of Hegel on the nightstand in our bedroom. In fact, he even changed his phone's background from a picture of me to this same picture of Hegel. I feel like I am competing with a 200 year old philosopher for my husband's attention.

Why does Analyticfaggotry even exist after Hegel turned philosophy into Science?

>I warned you.

what's the verdict?

>>18994434
Mathchads are the only respectable STEMbois (I also have a soft spot for Chemists). Eternal Philosophy + Math alliance, speculation >>> observation/reflection

>>18927033
Phenomenology of Spirit. It’s the most pseud book ever written.

Heg

Let me get this straight, this nigga thought things were getting BETTER?

>Wotan is Hegel
>claims Fricka only knows what is familiar, while 'my thoughts seek to encompass what's never yet come to pass'
>in his loyalty to the present order he betrays his philosophy, and kills its offspring

Hegel literally saved my life. Before reading him, I didn’t realize that I never got to externalize myself properly in other people because everyone I’ve ever known has been separated within my consciousness between lordship and bondage with no one in between. I was raised by someone with schizophrenia and, when my father got custody, he didn’t know how to deal with a strange child who was raised for ten years by someone clinically insane. Because of this, I have felt estranged from everyone my whole life. Not having anyone to externalize myself in, I retreated into myself and played with ghosts and fantasies through long and elaborate daydreaming. Hegel revealed myself to me, and now I can finally live with this in mind. I will participate in our world now. I will no longer seek to fulfill myself through dreams. Jesus is king!

>>18721403
"Being understood" just means reducing language to the understood, and therefore the not-language.

Anglophiles think they can say something without saying it.

What was his conception of free will? As far as i understand he thinks you can make abitrary, random choices but you are only really free in societal structures . Can anyone help me understand a bit better?

I wish Hegel was alive so I could give him a big, tight hug. Post philosophers you wish you could do the same for.

>refutes the law of non-contradiction

there's actually a guy that solved all philosophy believe it or not