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>>15896320
>objective reality exists.
False

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>>15223962
Let's stop pretending that Kaczynski is a revered intellectual or that he has something meaningful to say lmao. He is a self absorbed lunatic and a shallow thinker. Like this is stuff you would see underage children post on /pol/.

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Reminder that materialism and determinism have been falsified and pseudoscience trash belongs on >>>/x/

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Reminder that materialism/physicalism/"objective reality" are falsified, no longer accepted in modern physics and pseudoscience trash belongs on >>>/x/

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Woah, it seems people here are arguing materialism and deterministic causality.
Reminder that materialism and deterministic causality have been falsified, take your pseudoscience to >>>/x/

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No such thing as "objective reality"

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>>15191399
Nope.
I think that I should explain what Im saying. The philosophy of nihilism is based on a physicalism/materialism that basically goes
>"Everything is meaningless matter, therefore there is no purpose to anything"
However, ontological materialism/physicalism has been falsified. The Copenhagen interpretation, many worlds, bohmian mechanics, consistent histories, etc. have all been shown to be wrong. The Von Neumann-Wigner interpretation has been shown to be correct, strongly indicating that idealism is true and that consciousness is fundamental as opposed to material. Therefore nihilism no longer makes sense, it's based on a falsified ontology.

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Decoherence is disproven which eliminates MWI and other interpretations that deny wave function collapse.
https://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0312059.pdf

Materialism is disproven and with it all ontologies that follow from it
https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/03/12/136684/a-quantum-experiment-suggests-theres-no-such-thing-as-objective-reality/

Non-local theories are disproven and with them, realism is disproven and with it all claims for "objective realities"
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature05677

There are many more papers that can be linked to but these are sufficient.

Now that it's proven that there is no such thing as objective material reality, where do we go from here? Science/empiricism will have to ground itself on a different set of postulates in order to advance from this point on. What should those postulates be?

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Materialism has been falsified, along with many worlds interpretation and pilot wave interpretations. Superposition and consciousness causes collapse (the von-Neumann Wigner interpretation, NOT to be confused with Copenhagen interpretation) has been very solidly shown to be correct. Thus it is proven that reality can not be wholly material, and that ontological materialism is false. So what is the most likely version of non materialist ontology? I know Plato of course, but is there anything else, maybe something more modern?

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Lmfao dumb fucking morons, there's no such thing as objective physical reality. The ideology of "subjective morality" is built upon an ontological materialism/physicalism. But materialism is falsified. The experiment in pic related falsifies the many world's interpretation as well as pilot wave and other nonlocal interpretations and greatly privileges superposition and consciousness causing collapse. Reality is not solely material.
Now this doesn't necessarily imply that morality is an aspect of the non material part of existence but it's not a great leap of faith to think it is.

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