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I am looking for literature that argues in favor of absolutism. Pic unrelated, he only argued for the state.

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I wrote an essay on the topic comparing and contrasting the lockian and hobbsian veiw on the nature of the "natural state of man". I posted a decent bit of it here like 2 years ago.

Its been a while, but one seemed to try and real in the natural anrachic nature of man, while the other wanted society to be as close to it as possible. Both faced a conundrem of what happens when two peoples "rights" conflict with one another and the idea of property arose. (then I made a suposition how the lockian model may have influenced some dictitorial lines of thought in the vein of a napoleon, while the lockian thought influenced liberalism in the vein of the burgeoning US, but that was not hard and fast)

>Hobbes conceit is that pre “civilization” humanity lived all those millions of years in "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short" [lived] conditions
thats not incorrect at all. tribal warfare was horribly brutal in terms of percentages lost along with other ailments of primeval near animality. it wasnt much different from how groups of social animals interact, that is to say, tenuous. There can be an argument made that we are more psychologically adapt to that sort of living though. But then that begs the question of if a dog is happier or a wolf.
I dont think thats really a refutation of Hobbes though and more of an alternative conception. I think both models of thought (both are less scientific, but more in terms of the thought experiment of how man indiviguized compares and relates to man in connection)


Not the other guy you were responding to butters. I dont always agree with you, but I apreciate you sometimes put in some work and talk about this stuff.

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