/lit/ - Literature

>>23370241

>>23235518
More horrible when you consider how long the lie has been around

>>22627697
>>22628370

>>22591886
the Jews are clearly behind it, they're in it for the long game, by trying to subvert the truth about the real heterosexual Greeks they will crumble down the Western world. don't believe (((them))) and look into how far back the lies go

>>22306097
>>22306107
It's all just a big lie of course!

>>22194904
>Also pederasty involves usually an older man, teaching a younger body how to live life appropriately. Love in greek has so many meanings that simply using the word "love" as a replacement for the greek variants is butchering the meaning. There are 11 types of love in greek as far as I remember and Plato did state that "united his love for his boy with philosophy" was not homosexual but pure, meaning love as in "penchant for meeting" if you want to dabble in direct translation.
Yes except the word being translated as 'love' is 'eros'. Rather unambiguous, no?

>This has become most tiring, can you stop confusing pederasty which was a mentoring practice with actual homoerotic intent? Most of people pushing ancient greece either use that arguement or they just say that "le greeks" mentioned gay love, therefore they were homosexuals, completely missing the errs of translation to english.
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>>22015477
>1. No it wasn't, that's homo propaganda. Wasn't like that.
Hitler, Nietzsche, Shakespeare, John Chrysostom etc. is homo propaganda..?

>>22007091
Not watching a long video can you summarise its points

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>>22005430
What is this "confirmed" shit? What exactly is your primary source evidence for believing that? Also even if that is the case, the "small class of aristocrats" are the only people anyone cares about when they talk about "the Greeks" and "ancient Greek culture".

>>21976721
Again, feel free to explain why these are mistranslated, and what particular argument from this random guy you want refuted
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>>21959194
>>21959557


The Sparta thing is true, although it ignores the fact that pederasty still existed (Plutarch, Cicero, Xenophon) just without anal copulation. Cicero says they "permit everything except the filthy act itself". Plutarch says it is shameful for a Spartan youth "to be without lovers". Xenophon says the laws in Sparta are unusual, and that "most of the cities do not censure men's desire for boys"

Regarding Alexander the Great, these are selective quotations
>King Alexander, too, was quite excessively keen on boys: according to Dicaearchus in On the Sacrifice at Troy, he was so taken with the eunuch Bagoas that under the eyes of the whole theater he bent over to give him a kiss, and when the audience shouted and applauded, he very willingly bent over and kissed him again. Charon of Chalcis—so says Carystius in Historical Notes--had a beautiful boy who was devoted to him. Alexander remarked on his beauty during a drinking bout hosted by Craterus. Charon told his boy to give Alexander a kiss. "No!" said the king. "That would pain you more than it would please me."
Athenaeus, Deipnosophistae 13.602
>When Alexander arrived at the palace of Gedrosia, he restored the army with a festival. It is said that he got drunk and watched choral competitions. His eromenos Bagoas won in the dancing and he traversed the theater in his costume and sat down beside him. Seeing this, the Macedonians applauded and shouted out, bidding Alexander kiss him, until he embraced him and kissed him deeply
Plutarch, Alexander 67.8
>Alexander laid a wreath on Achilles' tomb and Hephaestion on Patroclus', hinting that he was Alexander's eromenos, as Patroclus was of Achilles.
Aelian, Varia Historia 12.7
>Euxenippus was still very young and a favourite of Alexander's because he was in the prime of his youth, but though he rivaled Hephaestion in good looks he could not match him in charm, since he was rather effeminate.
Curtius, The History of Alexander 7.9.19

>>21911827
This video is Jewish propaganda. Pic related

Lots of people are getting redpilled on the FALSE "gay Greeks" narrative. but I looked into it and it turns out they've been pushing this lie for longer than we realised

>>21893483
Great video! The only error is it pretends this disgusting narrative was invented very recently. Actually (((they))) have been pushing it for hundreds of years