/lit/ - Literature

There is a way forward.

But nobody in this thread has proposed it properly yet.

Only one man has ever triumphed against the accumulated forces of the world.

But He was not JUST a man. And you must not be just a man to follow Him.

I am a Christian. Would any Muslim like to very rationally point out to me why Jesus is not the Son of God, God Incarnate, and why He did not rise from the dead on Easter?

>>16572665
I have in fact prayed to Saint John the Beloved that I might never stray from the One True Gospel and the One True Church. As Saint John remained faithful to Christ, even to the end, I pray that I might, as well.

You know what's funny? As I've become a more devout and committed Christian, I've correspondingly become more pessimistic about social and political progress. I have become convinced that the reactionaries are right, that hierarchy is inevitable, that there will be no paradise in this life, and that the common man is always going to get fucked by the world.

It's as though, as my faith in God has increased, my faith in humanity has decreased.

There is no compelling reason to believe the Gospel of John was not written by John the Apostle. The exactness of the details about the Passion and the Crucifixion, in particular, suggest an eyewitness account.

>>15591783
No it has to be literally true. There's no point to it if it's not literally true. St. Paul himself says it:

>And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain. We are even found to be misrepresenting God, because we testified about God that he raised Christ, whom he did not raise if it is true that the dead are not raised. For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised. And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied.

>>15143132
This.

Let's not forget that the Jews basically forfeited their covenant when they rejected Christ and handed him over to Pilate to be crucified. So God declared that EVERYONE could be part of the New Covenant, not just Israel.

Which, now that I think about it, is foreshadowed in the Old Testament, when Esau gets cucked out of his birthright by Jacob.

Any good books to start learning about Christian mythology?

To me, mythology has always been more important in a religion than the teachings themselves. It just seems to me, that the teachings are just what a certain scholar can muster to words from his/her abstract ideas, but mythology is kind of like a collective (un)conciousness what gives us a much clearer picture, although abstract, of the primary being of the human mind, understanding which, is in my opinion, the primary goal of every philosophy and religion.

Everyone ITT is underestimating Christianity's resilience. You all might as well be living during the 5th Century at the height of Arianism. The Church has looked dead to rights before and survived, and then thrived. It will happen again. God will get out of the grave.

Islam is a manmade religion and Christianity is a divine religion. This is because Islam's founder was a man and Christianity's founder was God. It makes sense that Islam feels "earthier" than Christianity.

I love John because he's the only Apostle not to abandon Christ during the Passion. Only John followed Jesus all the way to the end.

>>13779858
I'm interested in the context of it, because I feel like love is the entire crux of Christianity. Love is kind of the beating heart of the religion. God loved the world enough to keep giving it chances after the Fall. Christ loved mankind enough to die on the Cross. Christians serve God primarily out of love for him, or at least that's how it works in theory. I feel like a lot of Nietzsche's writings on Christianity don't take this really fundamental aspect of it seriously, and merely view the religion through the prism of power dynamics.