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You're thinking much, much too narrowly. Read Timaeus, and from a place of humility. It will provide you with a suitable background for approaching Christian philosophy.

>When lions eat a baby elephant alive and it takes the calf more than three hours to die
Part of a cycle of life; demonstrates the 'harmony' of creation. All die so that others may live.

>that's an instance of natural torture.
Animals have no faculty of reason so any moral "transgressions" they commit are purely illusory. They are absolved of all wrongdoing but likewise incapable of righteousness. They are still a part of the beautiful natural world God has created, and they fill their role- in this way they are good.

>what about natural (as far as we know) psychological states like psychopathy and schizophrenia?
(as for as we know) being the operative phrase. But who says that schizophrenics 'must' commit wrongly ordered actions? To say that one 'must' murder or fornicate or whatever else is to rob them of the agency you rightly venerate. One might impute the blame for such conditions to demonic possession, but that is not the only recourse. See: Romans 1: 28-31, Daniel 4:31-33. In any case, God is just and we have no grounds on which to criticize his exercise of authority. We might wrestle with him, but it is we who are mutable that must be broken and reshapen, not he. 1 Corinthians 3:19

If you believe, for example, that murder (not killing, but murder) is always wrong, then you should ride that train of thought to its logical conclusion: that there is a natural law.

However if you believe all morality is a social construct, and that we are all rapists and murderers by a utilitarian nature, whence did such social constructs arise? The stronger would never have allowed themselves to live in submission to the weaker if this arrangement were not preferable to this supposed 'state of nature', in which case you vindicate Jesus in his assertion "So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."

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