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>>18240100
Secular morality is just increasing wellbeing and reducing suffering.
>"There's nothing to make people care about morality though"
There's also nothing to make people care about God or his will either. Any morality gained from religion isn't actually religious morality but socially enforced morality.
>If there is no God everything is permitted
Some things that ARE permitted and encouraged by God are absolutely awful so I wouldn't say your point matters. Another thing is even these things that God supposedly doesn't allow, he still lets happen anyway which kind of defeats the purpose.

And none of this gets around the fact that God doesn't actually exist.