/lit/ - Literature

>sublime prose
>proust

>>10015279

>>10015425
>degenerate

How do you sit inside reading when it's sunny outside and the Chads are fucking Staceys while your youth is leaving you and you feel pathetic for kidding yourself about literature or studying compensating for anything? Also I'm not at university any more, I mean reading and studying not as an immediate means to an end

>wake up
>decide to put clothes in washing machine and dryer later
>ate junk food yesterday and told myself I'd eat nothing today to make up for it but decide to postpone things, including my healthy diet
>decide not to go to gym today
>decide to eat vegetables later
>decide to join library to get more books- consumerwhoring cheaply
>buy tickets to see Dunkirk, just like the advertising and fake viral marketing on 4chan told me to
>ignore snow crash, the book I bought a few weeks ago to feel better and have barely gone though
>realise that reading is merely consumerwhoring

I wouldn't say this is full degenerate but it is intellectual death.

I hate how the academia-media-publishing industrial complex brainwashed pseuds tell me to read tonnes of shitty boring books or else say I'm dumb.

My dayjob is brain-dead. I am an empty suit.

>Noun1: The Adjective Story of Noun2

>it's another mccarthy thread turns into autists arguing about the point of blood meridian for the nth time

>novel starts of seeming like it's a parody of pulpy novels with an anti hero but turns in to a boring melodrama filled romance novel just under half way through

Wtf.

REEEE

I hate all the pseuds claiming I should read ten trillion boring as fuck "classic" books that they wouldn't give a fuck about if they were released today.

"""Intellectualism""" is the worst thing that ever happened to books. Philosophy is great. Literature is great. But FUCK stupid boring as fuck novels that people claim are """insightful""" but are actually boring as fuck, self-indulgent, preachy, petty, half assed tracts. Yes, I'm talking about Brothers Karamazov and Nicholas Nickleby, among many others. Wow, Dostoevsky is so fucking petty with some of his attacks. This is so hilariously small time (having a 6 year old pseudointellectual as a strawman; psychologist pseudointellectuals with conflicting views). And I even AGREE with Dostoevsky on those two...

Of course Dickens is right that child abusers are bad and some schools were bad, and he's probably right that ugly people are 100 % awful people (I know I am) but did we really need 770 pages of it? And a section where the main character insults people who make plays out of novels for money?

Damn... those books were so profound... really makes me reevaluate my outlook on life and the Hegelian ontology of the Indonesian puffer fish...

Only slightly less bad is history pissing contests. "Was Aristotle the first to talk about habits?" "Was Adam Smith the first to talk about division of labour?" Look, I just don't give a fuck. Stop telling me I need to read those boring as fuck books. Stop telling me I need to give a shit about Plato. The Republic was just one guy's views. And as soon as you read any of it and respond with anything other than, "omg Greatest genius of all time", the pseuds claim you don't understand it.

And of course I'll send you 10 bitcoin if you can find 1 (one) non-trivial statement by nietzsche. He was a Rorschach test for pseudo-intellectuals.

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/01/can_narcissism_be_cured.html

>DUDE JUST BE GOOD TO OTHERS LMAO

This was what every article was leading up to? What a load of crap.

1. How is it possible to care about philosophy when you realise that you are literally flailing about within the infinitely large space of unfalsifiable possibilities? The only difference between STEM and other parts of philosophy is that in STEM the axioms and criteria for validity are more widely accepted. That's it.

2. What the hell can a non-STEM philosopher who works at Harvard or Oxford POSSIBLY have to say, that is either / both: non-trivial or uses axioms that are extremely widely accepted? It never happens!

3. Why do people pretend that "objective" morality exists? Why isn't it acknowledged that in a non-universally Christian society without a widespread belief in a god who is external to the universe, the idea of "objectivity" collapses in to a trivial "whatever I define it to be" (a human definition").

Replace "morality" and "objective" with "quiggle" and "bibble" respectively, two terms with arbitrary definitions. Does bibble quiggle exist? This shows how absurd people are in thinking that philosophers can have anything to say. I just provided two arbitrarily defined words that we can argue about for the next 2000 years? So why do philosophers not talk about bibble quiggle or "Does an objective list of rules for Football exist?"? That's easy to answer. (NOTE: THE ANSWER RELATES TO "PRACTICE OF PHILOSPHY", NOT "PHILOSOPHY" I'm not shitting on reasoning itself). The answer is that philosophers are instantly drawn to the important sounding questions in order to gain attention and funding. They flee any field that has been colonised with scientists who use maths at a greater than high school level, even though they truthfully tell us that the scientific method is merely one out of infinitely many methods.

Note: AT ROOT, I simply point out the trivial conclusion that an unfalsifiable system is infinitely large. So I don't even shit on philosophers or the pseudo intellectual hangers on. THEY shit on everyone else because other people didn't bother learning their ONE particular self referential system out of the INFINITE possible number. Don't ask me why I shit on unfalsifiability. I don't. Ask why Philosophers, as Philosophy is currently practised, shit on everything other than themselves.

I just saw this article in the guardian website. Jesus Christ. What started off as a load of already trivial and banal ruminations over a new term, "anthropocene", took a turn for pure charlatanism.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/15/timothy-morton-anthropocene-philosopher

Even the first part, relating to "anthropocene" was bs. "Dude, humans affect the environment a lot now and that makes me feel different stuff!" Not only the content was dumb but the perceived importance of needing a label for this and who named it is just a result of academia caring about who gets the citations or who gets to write the definitive NYT best selling flavour of the week book.

But the article gets better/worse. The subject, creator of the term "anthropocene", speaks:

>“You wouldn’t believe how many philosophers are afraid of movement,” he began. He went on to discuss two strands of thought in the work of the philosopher Hegel. One problem with Hegel, Morton said, “the problem I call macro-Hegel, is that macro-Hegel makes the slinky moveupthe stairs, improbably. And at the top of the stairs, like the killer in Psycho, is waiting, drum roll, you guessed it, white western patriarchy in the guise of the Prussian state.” (I had not guessed this; should I have?) “So macro-Hegel blows it.”

> The Morton detractors with whom I spoke accused him of misunderstanding contemporary science, like quantum mechanics and set theory, and then claiming his distortions as support for his wild ideas.

I know that anti-OP edginess will cause you to proclaim this guy a genius and I could see you guys agree with me if I had stated the opposite of my opinion... but I can't bear that.

>write a long as fuck book
>bore people to tears by page 50 of my """magnum opus"
>they stop reading before page 100
>they dont have the right to criticise it because they didnt finish it
>theyre plebs

People on this board seriously think this.

Why is literary culture so poisonous and pseudo intellectual?

It seems I am obliged to read 1000 boring books that were written as entertainment but are now worshipped as if they are tomes of infallible philosophical wisdom. It is seen as an unforgivable crime to give up on a book no matter how boring it gets.

Literary theory is a load of incoherent and unfalsifiable nonsense that has never given anyone the ability to create worthwhile art.

It seems that these days novels have fallen so much in status they remain merely a way for women to attention whore.

>protagonist is an author

>>9554473

>Mein Kampf, Protocols of Elders of Zion, Culture of Critique, Turner Diaries, Imperium

What is a really great book on project Gutenberg? I have nothingto do at work.

I read two more chapters of Nicholas Nickleby but it is really awful.

>>9552088
he's a materialist faggot

who the fuck votes for stendhal and madame bovary-type shit? the fuck is wrong with you? don quixote should be higher. we need to get pedro paramo on the board

also - complete works of shakespeare is sort of cheap

>author describes everything everyone orders
>author details every street the characters go down if they're in paris or london or ny

Every time I have followed my own intuitions and enjoyment I have been led to profound and exciting and entertaining things.

Every time I follow the paths laid down by "prestige" and the compulsory suspension of taste and my bullshit detector, I have been led to the most unimaginably turgid and tedious and plainly unintelligent experiences possible.

Do you finish every book no matter how boring? If you read a boring classic book by an author do you still read their other books?

I hate how literature has become a pseudo intellectual social signalling mechanism. I am halfway through the brothers Karamazov and finding it boring as fuck in general. I have to read this book and many other boring as fuck books by Dostoevsky or else people will call me a pleb.

>tfw moving out tomorrow
>tfw will soon have a 9-5 job with much less free time
>tfw my typical loser suffering that I have spammed on 4chan constantly (no friends, no gf, never had female attention)

Once again I find myself looking back at a time where I was beating myself up (the past 2 years where I had huge amounts of free time and felt guilty about it and ate too much junk food / coffee, didn't learn enough) and I'm thinking that THAT was the golden age and I have constant nostalgia because my life is getting constantly worse

When did you realise that being an overanalysing consumerwhore and being a creator are completely distinct and loosley correlated? Me when I saw /lit/ claiming that reading all day was virtuous yet they treated the logical conclusion, NEETs, as a joke.

Also remember that consunerwhores are pathetic and the gatekeepers will never let you in to their exclusive Oxbridge / Ivy League club.