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Severe ex-Marxist-Leninist and ex-right winger here. I must admit, once I got a job, I mercilessly adopted the new ideology which was the shareholders come first. This led to anarcho capitalist and then neo liberal talking points. I've switched ideologies so many times I can't count but I've finally landed on the right one. Some times I have pangs of remorse but it goes away. My main problem is placating both sides or the political spectrum. I will adopt my camouflage to be center left leaning so they're impressed and at others, center right leaning. My ideology is insincerity so long as it benefits me.

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How did you know I was a collector. I thought I only posted one jack on this thread

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I'm just glad we're at a point where a thread can start with a pic of Böhm-Bawerk and get >300 replies.

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>Are there books about whether if ideology of freedom makes sense if most of people's actions are dictated by the environment or what they got from birth?
Well no. The trouble is, once you accept biological determinism, then political theory becomes, at best, an exercise in what you want to see. More often than not, it is a waste of time.

>Is this intended, in their playbook?
No, it's just that the nominally libertarian party is too weak to be of any use, not to mention it's been destroyed by pandering to non-libertarians, and the subsequent subversion caused by those people.

>Are there any books that tell the history of the American libertarian movement?
If you interpret the phrase "libertarian movement" as is, read a history of the revolutionary war, as well as any works by Washington, Jefferson, Paine, Franklin, and Henry. If you mean the contemporary one, I would recommend anything covering either the life of Murray Rothbard or the many campaigns of Ron Paul.

>Has Ayn Rand been that influential?
Yes, albeit not as much as non-libertarians would have you believe. Her fiction is most certainly the most popular gateway to libertarianism, but many usually drop her once they find out about the classical liberal tradition, old-school anarchists, Austrian economics, etc. If you were to venture into /lrg/ on /pol/ (or /liberty/) you wouldn't find much talk about her. Objectivism is seen as its own thing by libertarians and objectivists alike, though they may agree on a handful of things.

>americans seem very much libertarian compared to people in Europe.
The USA exists because of a libertarian revolution; it should come as no surprise that liberty is very important to most of us. Even hardened democrats and neocon republicans think they hold freedom to be a high good, even if they sometimes use it as a buzzword to get some anti-freedom policy through (wars abroad, single-payer healthcare, etc.).

In any case, this discussion appears to be spilling out of the theory/literature and more into the actual politics.
>>>/pol/
^You won't find many libertarians there, but I'm sure they'd be willing to answer more of your questions.

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