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>>22038136
>Western societies are dying at an absolutely breakneck speed.
I think this feeling is a side effect of media overconsumption. People were saying this shit in the 70s, and the 1890s (and I don't think they were wrong to feel that way, only their predictions of immediate collapse were not borne out). Not saying that decline is impossible or nonexistent. I think in many ways we have declined. But liberalism has outlived all of its competitors. No suitable adversary has appeared.
>How could you call it better than the alternative systems existing in our world when only western societies have a problem with literally being unable to stay alive and perpetuate themselves?
I am not sure what you mean by "unable to stay alive", considering life expectancy has never been as high. As for declining birth rates, I think this was always going to happen. The boom in fertility that accompanied the industrial revolution was an unsustainable anomaly. Illiberal societies haven't been able to deal with this problem either. Now China is experiencing it. India will soon as well. And possibly Africa further along the line.

This is an annoying discussion because I feel I am being pigeonholed into defending liberalism, but only because I think the charges you guys are laying against it are false. I don't have "faith" in the "destiny" of liberalism or anything like that, I don't think it's "destined" to thrive. I just think the reports of its death have been greatly exaggerated.

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>>21594327
Cyberpunk dystopia

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