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i sincerely enjoyed these posts, btw, wanted to respond to them in a little more detail, mostly just to give the props where required.

>what needs to be done, and this is where i like going back to the stoic analogy, is learning how to deal with fire
oh yes. this.

>surely there were some fire denouncers among early societies, but those couldn't have survived, just how anti-technics people can't survive in todays society
also this.

>of course again, technics is not needed to *live* in the classical sense, but for modern live it is inevitable.
and mos def this. what is needed is an *art of living* for a *mechanological culture.* sometimes it will call for the open hand and sometimes the closed fist. it's going to be interesting af, that's for sure.

>which means that in my current mode of thinking the concept of invention is impossible because you do not *invent* something, you merely discover a combination
of natural objects towards something *new* but this has been *discovered* rather than *invented*
works for me. how new ideas percolate into the world is a pretty beautiful mystery. really, it seems to have been Simondon's whole thing too, individuation in an information society. pretty wild stuff, and i think Stoic ethics would play a major part in them. there is the whole question of people *fearing what they do not understand* (and sometimes, for good reason!)

>(interesting whether nick would actually consider himself u/acc)?
he's just Uncle Nick now, i think.

>sure you can discover things earlier than others but limiting technical discovery in one direction and trying to *steer* that simply sets you up for bigger collapse later
this. there has been huge debate since 1966 over Kybernetes/'The Steersman'/and the meaning of politics. personally, i think the only thing anyone needs to do is steer themselves, but this is not as easy for some as it might seem. others can do it quite naturally, tho i'm not one of them.

>but to take away from all this is that *this is just the beginning* we are on the wild ride for sure.
ayup

>anyway that has been my schizo rambling for today thanks for listening
thanks for posting amigo. i really enjoyed reading your thoughts.

one other thing. if you're interested in Stoicism, you might want to check out the Stoic Registry, they've got a ton of stuff in there. i might even link to this in the next OP, now that i think of it. it's not called Greek Buddhism for no reason. i think i skew a little more Taoist than Stoic, but Epictetus is a good look for everyone. Stoics are generally pretty based people, i find.

http://collegeofstoicphilosophers.org/library_home