/lit/ - Literature

>it's a recovering the dead under an armistice paragraph

>the strong do what they may while the weak suffer what they must
How did Thucydides BTFO moralfags in a single line?

>No specific literary branch, simply a scribe
>motivation and intent for writing of the topic are both driven by the weight and greatness of the situational climate
>believes might makes right
>simple language, complex writing style
>has meaningful irl achievements

>first phase of the war takes place in Chalkidike
>second phase of the war takes place in Sicily
>third phase of the war takes places in Ionia
Why did this hack call it the Peloponnesian War again?

Step aside, Herodote...

Looking to read The Peloponnesian War, is there a favored edition or translation I should look into getting?

>>12431509

Chaire, my son.

The other day an anon asked who should be read to learn how to write a good speech. Several people suggested Thucydides.

What work were they referring to: "History of the Peloponnesian War"? What does it have to do with learning to write speeches?

what was his fucking problem?

No

Thucydides?
More like Thucuckdides!

>no mention of The Peloponnesian War
Shit thread

>watching news
>realize that the Greeks had basically said all there was to say, two and a half millennia ago
>watching some dipshit give a speech
>realize that he had been outdone by Pericles, two and a half millennia ago
Honestly why do these idiots even try so hard.

>Friedrich Nietzsche wrote that the best antidotes for Platonism were to be found in Thucydides:

>"My recreation, my predilection, my cure, after all Platonism, has always been Thucydides. Thucydides and perhaps Machiavelli's Principe are most closely related to me owing to the absolute determination which they show of refusing to deceive themselves and of seeing reason in reality – not in "rationality," and still less in "morality." There is no more radical cure than Thucydides for the lamentably rose-coloured idealisation of the Greeks... His writings must be carefully studied line by line, and his unuttered thoughts must be read as distinctly as what he actually says. There are few thinkers so rich in unuttered thoughts... Thucydides is the great summing up, the final manifestation of that strong, severe positivism which lay in the instincts of the ancient Hellene. After all, it is courage in the face of reality that distinguishes such natures as Thucydides from Plato: Plato is a coward in the face of reality – consequently he takes refuge in the ideal: Thucydides is a master of himself – consequently he is able to master life." (A Nietzsche Compendium, Twilight of the Idols, trans. Anthony M. Ludovici)

Why would you read anyone else, when you can just read Thucydides and be jump-started straight into modern thought?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNcJ79qPIg8
>The War That Never Ends
You were right /lit/. It all starts with the Greeks

>>7861074
>he's never fucked the thighs of his ἐρώμενος

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>>7322490
>mixing all these philosophies and time periods

the only way to do philosophy is chronologically

What are some necessary works to read in aesthetics?