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How come life is so objectively terrible

Woke: Transvaluation of all values
Broke: Life has no meaning
Joke: "One must imagine Sisyphus happy".

>>9271573
The ascension of man to new heights.

Sweet reminder that this way of thinking measures the value of things according to pleasure and pain, which is to say according to incidental states and trivialities. A foreground way of thinking and naivety, and nobody who is conscious of both formative powers and an artist’s conscience will fail to regard it with scorn as well as pity.

In human beings, creature and creator are combined: in humans there is material, fragments, abundance, clay, dirt, nonsense, chaos; but in humans there is also creator, maker, hammer-hardness, spectator-divinity and seventh day: – do you understand this contrast? And that your pity is aimed at the “creature in humans,” at what needs to be molded, broken, forged, torn, burnt, seared and purified, – at what necessarily needs to suffer and should suffer?

It is hilarious how the natalists try to argue with the antinatalists, the latter of whom are like an enemy in the middle of war threatening to commit suicide. It's not just the antinatalists who shouldn't reproduce, then, but even many of the natalists, such as for instance all those who try to argue with the antinatalists.

The successive decline of religion, nationalism, sanctity of blood ties and institution of marriage, have created the Individual — unknown to lower cultures or earlier phases of the master race's culture — who is, like all advances, something of a double-edged sword, which many use to advance and improve their lives (or, more correctly: the future of their genes), but which others flail about and cut themselves with. So on the one hand the individual no longer feels a responsibility towards his gods, nation, tribe or family to reproduce, because these are outdated, marginalized institutions — and JUSTLY marginalized (since their era has passed precisely because the culture has advanced beyond them) — that no longer hold any authority over anyone but a minority of backwards losers, but on the other hand, the philosophy that is destined to replace them — that of the Overman and the Eternal Recurrence — has not yet had sufficient time to take hold and lend reproduction a new meaning — a stronger and more glorious meaning than it has ever had! — and as a consequence the meaning of reproduction in the general culture is currently lacking to such a degree that — for the first time in history — a growing number of degenerates are even campaigning for its destruction (anti-natalism). As a result of all this the majority of the population seems to have turned over completely to hedonism, and the last thing on their minds is to undertake the laborious task of propagating themselves — which is of course a good thing, because in this way the hedonists are removing their failed genes and gene configurations from our gene pool.

>>8851490
https://youtu.be/S-xUjmJkO8g

Even if his ideology is clearly fucked I think he was a brilliant man and propagandist, what are some good books about his thougths or theories.
No biography shit pls.

>>8778857
> sub-13
Highly religious, adhering to custom and finding beauty in the world

> 13-15
Rebellious militant atheist, sometimes sollipsist (although I had never heard of the term at the time), anti-GOP

>16-17
Agnostic, played too many video games to carry about the world but somewhat liberal

>18
Embraced the ascetic and aesthetic /fit/ lifestyle, introduced officially to nihilism when my college expectation were shattered, also introduced to right-wing politics

>19
Idealist, absurdist, had 2 existential crisese in which I dropped out of college. Skeptical alt-right nerd

>20
Deep ecology

Still a virgin, but if I read enough books I'll get laid, right?

>>8751647
ressentiment

>blank slates
>dualisms
>lacking aesthetics
>false dichotomies
>forms
>things in themselves
>ontology
>metaphysics
JUST

Plato, it seems to me, throws all stylistic forms together and is thus a first-rate decadent in style: his responsibility is thus comparable to that of the Cynics, who invented the satura Menippea. To be attracted to the Platonic dialogue, this horribly self-satisfied and childish kind of dialectic, one must never have read good French writers — Fontenelle, for example. Plato is boring. In the end, my mistrust of Plato goes deep: he represents such an aberration from all the basic Greek instincts, is so moralistic, so pseudo-Christian (he already takes the concept of "the good" as the highest concept) that I would prefer the harsh phrase "higher swindle" or, if it sounds better, "idealism" for the whole phenomenon of Plato.We have paid dearly for the fact that this Athenian got his schooling from the Egyptians (or from the Jews in Egypt?) In that great calamity called Christianity, Plato represents that ambiguity and fascination, called an "ideal," which made it possible for the nobler spirits of antiquity to misunderstand themselves and to set foot on the bridge leading to the Cross.And how much Plato there still is in the concept "church," in the construction, system, and practice of the church! My recreation, my preference, my cure from all Platonism has always been Thucydides. With him the culture of the Sophists, by which I mean the culture of the realists, reaches its perfect expression — this inestimable movement amid the moralistic and idealistic swindle set loose on all sides by the Socratic schools.Greek philosophy: the decadence of the Greek instinct.Thucydides: the great sum, the last revelation of that strong, severe, hard factuality which was instinctive with the older Greeks.In the end, it is courage in the face of reality that distinguishes a man like Thucydides from a man like Plato: Plato is a coward before reality, consequently he flees into the ideal; Thucydides has control of himself, consequently he also maintains control of things.

>contemporary German music, which is romanticism through and through and most un-Greek of all possible art forms—moreover, a first-rate poison for the nerves, doubly dangerous among a people who love drink and who honor lack of clarity as a virtue, for it has the double quality of a narcotic that both intoxicates and spreads a fog
>what would a music have to be like that would no longer be of romantic origin, like German music—but Dionysian?
Did jazz and rock answer his question, /mu/?

>>8447774
>his method is marred by an almost Descartian Idealism that attributes mystical agency to the individual he can never have.
Except he doesn't. People not being capable of overcoming their own spooks is something he accounts for; and even if you know something is a spook and can act otherwise, it doesn't mean you will so long as others enforce it with their own might, he accounts for that too. Don't forget for Stirner it's perfectly fine to live among the spooked and act like them, and to lie about what you really believe in if it suits you (after all putting truth about you is being spooked).

Stirner's conscious egoist isn't an übermensch, it's not an achievement and it's not something you will be necessarily better off being--he even says explicitly that it could cause wars and he still wouldn't give a damn about, because he's only interested about *his* ideas (his property) having a place in the world.

>>8226943
Don't get too hyped, it takes a while to get good, but the final chapters are amazing.

neet
i read for 12 hours a day, every day

more like the greatest dweeb of all time

His philosophy leads you to horribly stupid conclusions and he's a terrible writer. For one example, Kant concludes that if a person is hiding in your home from someone who intends to kill her, and that person knocks on your door and asks where she is, you are morally obligated to tell the truth. Anything less is using that murderer as a means rather than an end.

>>7477015
yer class sux teacher i hate u

>Friedrich Nietzsche criticized the phrase in that it presupposes that there is an "I", that there is such an activity as "thinking", and that "I" know what "thinking" is. He suggested a more appropriate phrase would be "it thinks." In other words, the "I" in "I think" could be similar to the "It" in "It is raining."

Posting the rarest Stirner meme of all, which nobody seems to notice.

>>7219359
>being depressed after reading Nietzsche and Stirner

You did something wrong.

>>6982919
>implying every strain of possible philosophical inquiry or questioning wasn't already covered by the pre-socratics

>>6743728
You gotta become that self-propelled wheel.

>>6683255
You're not strong enough to be a free spirit.

>>6643197
>Often; I have Loewenberg's Hegel Selections on my desk right now, open to the section on International Relations in the Philosophy of Law.
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dfw yourself