/lit/ - Literature

fuck eliot, Keats is what you want baby.

just ask this guy.

if you:

* don't mind specious time travel wibbley-wobbley timey wimey;

* like stories about god-tier killing machines;

* hate the catholic church

* like stories with a hundred characters

you'll like Dan Simmons' Hyperion books.

>>3798539
if you want vast, sprawling, detailed universes... well. shit. there's Dan Simmons' Hyperion Books. although personally i wasn't happy with how the Shrike went from being the ultimate Big Bad in the first books, to a Big Bad with a heart of gold by the end. also, time travel stories really piss me off.

>>3459972
Hyperion was a great book. the guy has a hardon for Wordsworth, but that's okay.

the three books that followed it were.. okay... (the evil cybrid Radamanth Nemes is an obvious shout-out to Jack Vance, from her description).. but... man. Simmons makes his characters jump through so many hoops, just to get that one time-travel joke in.

the number of times Aenea tells Raul "just do this. don't ask questions, just DO IT"... and he DOES. it goes beyond trust and into obsessive insanity.

"Here. get into this canoe, sail it down the river through the farcasters. yes, it'll take you to another planet. don't ask where, or what you're supposed to do when you get there. GO." and he does. wow.

i think it suffered little from progressive escalation, in that the Shrike was a fucking Bad Ass in the first book, but by book four was actually on the verge of losing a fight now and then.

first two books were good. the twists and turns needed to bring about the climax in book four made it a little less credible. fucking time travel! i groan every time it appears.

also, Silenius has to be the most repellent antagonist i've ever read. each time he speaks, i just want to slap his goaty face off the front of his skull.

Lamia crouched next to him and touched his pack. "That's what you've been carrying. The pages of your poem. The Cantos."
"Of course," he said.
"And you still think that proximity to the Shrike will allow you to finish it?"
Silenus shrugged, feeling the heat and dizziness whirl around him. "The thing is a fucking killer, a sheet-metal Grendel forged in hell," he said. "But it's my muse."

- Dan Simmons, The Fall of Hyperion

I just finished Hyperion and Fall of Hyperion.

I really liked both and thought the end was near to perfect. I was then ready to read Endymion (I mean, to buy and then read it) but someone here said both, Endymion and Rise of Endymion were complete garbage?

Is it better to not read them and keep in my memoory the excelent (in my opinion) ending of the first two books?

What's your opinion on Hyperion?

I finished it (I still have to buy The fall of Hyperion) and while I think I've seen a lot of things there, it is still pretty awesome how Dan Simmons manages to wrap everything up in the dark sci-fi setting.

Each tale has something on it's own, but my favorite was the Scholar story where the girl is becoming younger each day, as I found it really moving and sad. The man who cried God was pretty good too, in its own twisted way.

This is a list of things I thought up while reading this: The TechnoCore was akin to The Matrix, the Shrike was akin to The Terminator, The priest tale reminded me of Borges tale, The immortal; the scholar tale reminded me of Benjamin Button.

Not saying I think is plagiarism, in fact, I enjoyed finding stuff like this.

;_; aenea