/lit/ - Literature

>>10529281

>But some friends of mine said that philosophy isn't for everyone, like, should be read by some kind of elite that can think about it in a critic way.

At first read this sounds a little pretentious, hoity-toity, and ultimately seems like a circuitous appeal to authority (as if only the intelligentsia are qualified to philosophize).

But I kind of agree with it. Not because people's critical faculties are unequal, but because ruminating about basic philosophical questions can, at least I think, drive some people mad. It drove me mad at a young age, albeit I have a bit of an obsessive personality, but at some point an individual will recognize that, despite their most earnest attempts, they don't really know what they're talking about -- and neither does anyone else. We may try to justify and presuppose and principalize, but, if are indeed using are faculties for reason, a very, ironically, Nietzschean supposition, we are probably in some sense working from an axiom of nihilism. I think this nihilism only works in us to deanimate our spirits and engender in us a sense of despair.

So in some sense, I don't think everyone should to be wasting their time mulling over big existential questions. It's not really healthy to prod at such a big fire with inconclusive results. They will likely not walk away with unique insights or nirvana either, just nihilistic doubts. The ruminating ought to be left for those who are introspective and requisitely insane -- lest we all go insane.

>>9372064

I found some aspects of BG&E to be inspiring and insightful. The one thing I'd really taken from it over the years, and this quote is burned into my head, paraphrasing here, "One must be careful fighting monsters lest they themselves become a monster. And if thou gaze into the abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee."

I found the whole "let nihilism forge you" thing to be lackluster; I'm much more partial too a sort of Kierkegaardian perspective wherein objective dogma brunts the blow of nihilism in lieu of the individual becoming the poet of their morality. This is not to say that Christian dogma is more correct than Nietzschean moral poetry, but it is to say that I think the former is a better cure to nihilism if indeed one hasn't already killed God.

I also thought Nietzsche too eagerly castigated Christian morality as slave morality, that there's great virtues to be found in Christian morality, and that his proposed system would lend itself to a too uncaring ethic, one that maybe wasn't conducive to the progress of a civilization.

Moreover, and perhaps more important that any of this: Nietzsche himself recognized that when God died, one could not make themselves believe again. Yet he went on to posit that one should will themselves into believing in their own moral poetry. This I find paradoxical.

I see nihilism as a permanent condition, not one that can necessarily forge an individual. I think the cure is faith, which, when gone, is gone forever for a lot of people. Nietzsche himself wrote later in life that one would have to be mad to truly live by his system, and that few men could ever do it.

"all superior men who were irresistibly drawn to throw off the yoke of any kind of morality and to frame new laws had, if they were not actually mad, no alternative but to make themselves or pretend to be mad"

I am not an ubermensch, but I'm pretty happy about it.

>>8783372

EXPOSED hehe

>>8723474

/lit/, /pol/, /tv/ AND /his/ LOATHES his highly selective history videos

basically a cuckimus maximus

>>8718488

Didn't he also say that decoupling people from their delusions (i.e. religion) was a recipe for nihilism? And that the delusion was a source of strength/comfort in the wake of uncertainty?

IIRC it's a proto-conjecture of the sort of Durkheimian view of the satisfaction and cohesion that religion brings man?

Someone help me into Nietzsche on religon

>>8713842

Do what I did and go to CC for 2 years, then a decent state school for your degree. I went to a T10 state school and my degree is still worth a lot.

Now I have my pick of elite law schools.

Don't fall for the elite school meme. Save money.