/lit/ - Literature

>>9343816

i got you. tired, gonna finish for tonight, but it's added to the list.

>>9343831

yeah, you're paranoid. stop.

>>9044078
>>9042564

i think, further, that the lie for both plato and nietzsche operates in a specific way, both in terms of the individual psyche and in terms of the way that psyche interacts with the external world. i would argue that plato's conception of the ethical self is one--and this is certainly to simplify, as most of the conversation on 4chan unfortunately has to be--that tries to avoid what he calls "the civil war of the self"--a cohesive, well-ordered self (the philosopher), when given power, leads to a cohesive, well-ordered political/social/economic world (the hierarchical gold/silver/bronze caste system, mortared by the noble lie). i think the same is true, fundamentally, of nietzsche--both in terms of the self-purging aspect that tries to avoid internal "civil war" (see amor fati, and the corresponding energies of the eternal return) and, further, the addition of power to this self-purged "overman" that will lead to the balanced, self-orbiting system of overman and final men he envisions.
both the platonic philosopher and the nietzschean overman are aware of thelie they tell; but this awareness, unlike other forms of bad faith, does not lead to self-fracture, but cohesion and coherence, both of the individual and greater social collective.
so, while i think they arrive at the lie from different angles, and certainly set of systems where its deployment and use is substantially different, i believe that the architectonics of their treatment viz. the "lie" seem similar enough to warrant some consideration