/lit/ - Literature

Reading in pseudo-chronological order is like /ic/ telling art newfags to start by grinding boxes and anatomy. Start by reading something easy, fun and relatively modern.

>>18038633
>literally gets a bunch of sources
>"mmmhhhh ackhtually it's not true because trust me bro"
Ebin. Kraut, Anglo, whatever the fuck, keep seething.

>>18024579
Fuck off, B*rbarian!

>>17787760
>Plato and Socrates are literally wrong about everything

>>17018034
>>17018166
Fuck off Kraut.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/08/greeks-really-do-have-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dna-analysis-sheds-light-mysterious-origins-ancient-greeks-180964314/

https://www.thenationalherald.com/181104/modern-greeks-dna-similar-mycenaeans-minoans-study-finds/

https://www.livescience.com/60027-origins-of-1st-advanced-greek-civilizations.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-40791188

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature23310

https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg201718

https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/nature23310.pdf

https://images.nature.com/full/nature-assets/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/extref/nature23310-s1.pdf

European journal of Human Genetics: "Genetics of the peloponnesean populations and the theory of extinction of the medieval peloponnesean Greeks"
- https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg201718

National libary of Medicine: "Genetic history of the population of Crete" -Department of Medicine, Division of Medical Genetics, University of Washington, Seattle, Washington
- https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31192450/

Department of Anthropology, University of Vienna: "Genetic continuation of the Minoans and Mycenaeans"
- https://www.nature.com/articles/nature23310#article-info

German National Genome Research Network: "Correlation between Genetic and Geographic Structure in Europe"
- https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cub.2008.07.049

American Journal of Physical Anthropology."Reconstruction of human evolutionary tree using polymorphic autosomal microsatellites"
- https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ajpa.10234
( FST distances showed that Greeks group with other European and Mediterranean populations, especially with Italians (−0.0001) and Tuscans (0.0005))

University of Stanford: Origin, Diffusion, and Differentiation of Y-Chromosome Haplogroups E and J: Inferences on the Neolithization of Europe and Later Migratory Events in the Mediterranean Area
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1181965/
(The Y-chromosome lineage E-V13 appears to have originated in Greece or the southern Balkans and is high in Greeks as well as southern Italians. E-V13 is also found in Corsicans and Provencals)

Princeton University Press, Princeton: In Search of Geographical Patterns in European Mitochondrial DNA
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC385092/
(The results of the study support the idea of genetic continuity between these civilizations and modern Greeks but not isolation in the history of populations of the Aegean, before and after the time of its earliest civilizations)

>>16741344
Stop appropriating my culture, Amerimutt.

>>16673394
Always has been so

>>16577225
You lost the argument to him pathetically quickly...at least try to put up a fight!

>>16506801
>flowers are pretty therefore demiurge not real
Yes

>>11695394
superior med genes

>>11665790
>implying the Romans weren't miscegenating slavers and rapists
You did this to yourself, Europe.

fuuuuck i hate fakeass zen buddhist westerners

>>10984038
9/10 with 4.15 GPA here, shut the FUCK up.

>>10851154
my fucking guy

>>10850379
>Christ
>philosophical void
>muh exotic east
You need to read more. Look for the foundations of Christianity, and you will find very smart Greeks.

START--

>>10655803
No, it's likely too esoteric for you to understand. Before you read any source material, read interpretations and arguments/context about that material. It'll make understand much easier. I'd also start with more modern philosophers as they are easier to understand. Ethics (for example, utilitarianism) or existentialism would be a good place to start.

Iliad or go fuck your mother

Meditations by Marcus Aurelius and The Revenant by Michael Punke.

Homer or go fuck your mother

Homer

Fagles is literally the pleb translation. Might as well read a contemporary vocabulary prose rendition

>>10530336
>whats the point of your post OP?
To remind you of your place

>>10519704
Honestly something about this shot gives me the warm feelios. I was a child in the 1980s, and I remember the world under the Cold War. Seeing the period correct clothing and even shitty trade paperback makes me feel like that time was resurrected in ours even if only briefly for some dumb film. This shot also is forcefully reminiscent of the cafe scenes in a Hemingway novel, or the film Roman Holiday. The exquisite simplicity of vacationing in Europe. The fantasy of having a bank account that can manage the expense. The fleeting youth and carefully manicured stubble of golden boy over there, who is a few years young than me.

This saudade makes me desperately glum, lads.

>not using whatever flat object happens to be lying around