/lit/ - Literature

Detach &Humanities from /his/ and make "/sh/ - Social Sciences & Humanities". Then make "/rel/ - Religion" as a tradcath containment zone. If /v/ is allowed to have 7 boards, we should be able to have a few more.

I like the Taylor translation
>I've studied now Philosophy
>And Jurisprudence, Medicine,--
>And even, alas! Theology,--
>From end to end, with labor keen;
>And here, poor fool! with all my lore
>I stand, no wiser than before:
>I'm Magister--yea, Doctor--hight,
>And straight or cross-wise, wrong or right,
>These ten years long, with many woes,
I>'ve led my scholars by the nose,--
>And see, that nothing can be known!
>That knowledge cuts me to the bone.
>I'm cleverer, true, than those fops of teachers,
>Doctors and Magisters, Scribes and Preachers;
>Neither scruples nor doubts come now to smite me,
>Nor Hell nor Devil can longer affright me.

>For this, all pleasure am I foregoing;
>I do not pretend to aught worth knowing,
>I do not pretend I could be a teacher
>To help or convert a fellow-creature.
>Then, too, I've neither lands nor gold,
>Nor the world's least pomp or honor hold--
>No dog would endure such a curst existence!
>Wherefore, from Magic I seek assistance,
>That many a secret perchance I reach
>Through spirit-power and spirit-speech,
>And thus the bitter task forego
>Of saying the things I do not know,--
>That I may detect the inmost force
>Which binds the world, and guides its course;
>Its germs, productive powers explore,
>And rummage in empty words no more!

Bros, my 19 yo niece in law just said I'm like Jesus because I have her some Emma Goldman eassays two years ago. Books for this feel?

Anything in particular about the book you want to talk about?

>>16313811
The Will to Believe by William James

>>16273691
I missed them.

>Enquiry Concerning Political Justice - Godwin
>What is Property - Proudhon
>The Ego and It's Own - Stirner
>God and the State - Bakunin
>Statism and Anarchy - Bakunin
>The Conquest of Bread - Kropotkin
>Anarchism and other Essays - Goldman
>Anarchism - Malatesta
>From Bakunin to Lavan - Newman
>Post-Scarcity Anarchism - Bookchin
>Watch "No God's no Masters" documentary on YouTube.
Though I know what and why Anarcho-capitalists argue, embarrassingly I have read any specific work by one. Basically just read Austrian school thinkers and extrapolate. Maybe another anon can fill that in.
Also, unironically ask Butterfly.

It's been a few years since i've read it, but i'll see what i can do.
One part that only dawned on me after doing a bit more reading into Plato's epistemology is that the justification for the philosopher king being the dictator of the state intimately tied with Platonic metaphysics. This is revealed with the allegory of the cave. Now the allegory of the cave is often taken to be a purely epistemological and metaphysical exercise, but i think it has direct ties with the system of the republic itself. When the prisoner who has escaped the cave returns to tell his fellow prisoners of what he saw, they reject him.
Essentially, the philosopher king is the escaped prisoner who has gazed at the sun (the form of the good) which illuminates all other truths. And the metaphor of the sun here is important, as the implication is that knowledge of the form of the good shines light on the just order of the world, and without it one fumbling in the dark, knowing nothing. The everyday citizen is the prisoner in the cave following the shadows (representational of knowledge derived from everyday experience but knows no necessary truths), and needs to be guided. Though it is unclear whether Plato thought everyone could come to know this knowledge (several dialogues conflict, Phaedrus, Meno, and Theaetetus seem to suggest they can, but the noble lie and the allegory itself seems to suggest they cant). In any case, if the purpose of politics is justice, and the only one who knows the justice is the philosopher-king, then the only rational option is to have them rule absolutely over society. For otherwise, the city would simply be following shadows on the wall, ignorant of true justice. And, knowing perfect justice the philosopher-king will never abuse their power or make a decision that is unjust (i believe there is a dialogue (Protagoras?) where Plato argues that virtues are self-motivating just by knowledge of them). The definition that Socrates reaches for justice is that it is when all the virtues are in order (temperance, courage, wisdom—represented by the three classes of the citizens, guardians, and philosopher king). And in Phaedrus, wisdom controls desire with the help of temperance much as the philosopher king protects his city with the guardians. So the purpose of the philosopher king is to bring the city into perfect order, demonstrated by the relative position of the three classes, and the fact that every citizen does precisely the occupation that they are most fit for.
So if platonic metaphysics and epistemology is true, then the only way to have a just city—that is, the only way you could have politics at all—is if it were ordered like the republic. It's pretty neat, and a lot more systematic and coherent than i originally thought.
That's enough rambling. This may all be explicit in the dialogue but i can't remember every detail. It feels like you can get lost in the republic for hours and still barely scratch the surface.

>>16183376
Enjoy it while it lasts anon! Soon you'll have learned all the words and it will be rare to run into new ones.
>>16183403
Otiose

>>16148508
No, the sovereign breaks the social contract if they try to take the life of an individual under their power. Hobbes states specifically that an individual has the right to resist if the state attempts to kill them. If this thread is still up 6 hours from now I'll give you a direct quote, as I don't have access to my copy of Leviathan at the moment.