/lit/ - Literature

>>14263238
>see the beauty of a pile of gravel without needing the comforting notion of certified "art" when you see it in an art museum.
I'm not arguing that the museum is the only way by which these appeals are allowed to persist. I'd more accurately say that the museums give people not just the excuse to do so but the prompts as well. What are the odds of finding the exact sum of emotional and intellectual responses in the wild versus at a museum?

>and i think you dont need the walls of a museum of art to have that deep reflexive something.
I completely agree with this sentiment, I just don't know if I'd ever go so far as to say these museums offer untold value to untold numbers of people.

>my point is you are under the waves of art as a deep reflexive something
I wouldn't necessarily argue that, I think the intentionality of the craft invites a certain degree of empathic contemplation. What would make you produce 10 tons of ceramic seeds for instance?

>you dont see suspicious you are having different thoughts about a pile of gravel just because is in a museum of art?.
Not at all, the setting is fundamentally different. I'd have another far different opinion (and a far more negative one) if a pile of gravel that large found its way into my room as well. I can see your point that it's not fair to ascribe the sole capacity to induce wonderment to museums, but you still haven't convinced me how it follows that museums lack value.

>then go to a construction place and delight yourself.
Perhaps I shall should the opportunity arise.

>>14259458
It's death in the traditional sense, but a society that advanced to the point of essentially being a different species would likely consider the throughline of consciousness to be all the proof necessary of life. What are you when you can be easily replicated? Are you the original model, or merely the newest one carrying out the will of the sum total of entities that came before you?

Do you die when your body replaces the majority of its cells within 7 or so years or does the inherent "youness" of it all maintain by virtue of those cells being replaced gradually ala Ship of Theseus or Grandfather's Axe?

Also, I'm of the opinion our conscious self dies every time we go to sleep or change our focus.

>>14221532
I wanted to engage with the text on a more personal level. The book asked for this.

>>14196934
I've always seen this quote attributed straight to him on /lit/. I never said I read the book.

>>14177396
You shouldn't read your diary anon

>>14166619
Ah, it was a cope all along.

>>14161852
>A beach read
>Too allergic to sand to read the genre

>>14154994
Honestly? Sour grapes. I haven't bothered looking for an agent and have instead focused on acquiring a network of freelance online writing gigs to accompany my own mid-tier Literotica career. Planning on penning my first proper novel over the next few months and see where things go from there financially speaking.

Once the novel part is done I should definitely look for an agent, but at the moment it comes across like wasted effort when looking into just how little money is made in the industry even when fully entrenched but not wildly successful. It seems like the mid-tier successes of self-publishing are more financially rewarding than the mid-tier successes of traditional. Though again I'll freely admit this could just be a fox and the grapes type situation on my end.

>>14080402
This is what all cultures have done, only without knowing as much of the psychology behind it. The only true freedom can be attained from knowing oneself completely, and that includes knowledge of the mechanisms of control we come with.