/lit/ - Literature

>>23816024
Really interesting question, and I have no idea. One that I have experience with an really confuses me is France's love of Faulkner --considering he wrote about the South which could easily come across as somewhat uncultured. I did a study abroad in Paris for one semester and TSatF and Absalom seemed to be held in the same regard as Ulysses and Finnegans Wake. I think no one cared about the typical Pynchon/DFW/Corncob type books, which was eye-opening for me as my taste in lit then was pretty much the meme trilogy and other books in the top 100 /lit charts. Probably this anon >>23816038 got it right about those books, I assume.

Here's an article I found about Faulkner and France.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2009/mar/19/william-faulkner-france-telerama

>enjoying the story? Good
>imagine a white man fucking a black woman
>now imagine a black man fucking a white woman
>okay all done back to the story

INFP
William Faulkner

Where to start? As I lay dying or just go to his masterpiece The sound and the fury.

Audio books are for niggers.

>>22398004
>>22398117
Now imagine what would happen if you tried reading actual literature.

Post a renowned writer you can't stand.
For me it is William Faulkner.

>>22341125
sure but you're describing a crutch the problem isn't being autobiographical it's are you actually good. f scott fitzgerald is mostly autobiographical and he's amazing. of course the best writers don't do this so forwardly, faulkner would never, but it doesn't mean you're automatically bad
>>22340955
did you make this image? that's pretty creepy perhaps even incel of you even having it saved on your computer

Who's got the best prose in English?

I'm tired of shit that reads like a blog post. I want to read authors that put some care into the words they string together, like Faulkner or McCarthy.
I've mostly just read in Spanish though, I barely know English literature.

Why don't writers live interesting lives anymore? You see all these stories about what Hemingway and Faulkner and Burroughs did and how that influenced their writing. What happened to people living dark, dangerous lives? A lot of modern writing is insufferable because nobody has onteresting lived experiences. It's all mfa programs and suburbanites

Why did he have so much white guilt?

I've read Light in August and I'm on The Sound and the Fury. When does he get racist?

The greatest American writer to ever live.

>>21983097
Especially if you’re Caucasian
Or Caucasian adjacent

Is he the progenitor of the South=incest stereotype?

We're never gonna see another writer like him again.

>>20871952
William Faulkner, Thomas Wolfe and John Milton are the biggest inspirations for me right now. I read a lot of other stuff that but those are the authors that struck a cord with me the most.

>>20771998
>What the fuck was Jason's problem? I understand that he's sort of left holding the bag, but why's he such a prick?
Read the short story "the Evening Sun" that includes a story with Quentin, Caddy and Jason before Benjy was born. Jason is a little asshole even then.
>>20772533
It mentions the family history in the back of the book, and that will give context about the angst within the family about all the lost glory. The short story "My Grandmother Millard" set at the end of the Civil War actually mentions the Compsons. People were hiding their silver and the North looted practically everyone. Also it's not as much about slavery but it is changing relationship between blacks and whites during Reconstruction where these people grow up with this really clear boundary of self-worth, dependence and responsibility. Honestly I fail to understand a lot of it because I didn't really grow up in that world where people lived together that way and I never really asked my great grandparents or my oldest grandmother, because they were so poor they did their own work but they definitely had a way of treating other people's servants.
I will say concerning the story Quentin is an example of someone whose Fury is sad despair because of guilt, but Jason's Fury is angry despair because he's not guilty and he wants recompense that no one will ever repay him for. There is still this tinge of despair in Southern writing in the 20th century regarding modernity, and even in the 21st century there are still societies honoring the Old South. Personally I tried to have some confederate statues remain some places but they were removed but I guess if people want to forget that 50% of the enrolled students died during the war then they might as well rename the school William T. Sherman University.

>>20731033
>And I remember how all that afternoon—Uncle Willy lived on a little quiet side street where the other houses were all little new ones that country people who had moved to town within the last fifteen years, like mail carriers and little storekeepers, lived—how all that afternoon mad-looking ladies with sun-bonnets on crooked came busting out of that little quiet street dragging the little children and the grown girls with them, heading for the mayor's office and Reverend Schultz's house, and how the young men and the boys that didn't work and some of the men that did would drive back and forth past Uncle Willy's house to look at her sitting on the porch smoking cigarettes and drinking something out of a glass; and how she came down town the next day to shop, in a black hat now and a red-and-white striped dress so that she looked like a great big stick of candy and three times as big as Uncle Willy now, walking along the street with men popping out of the stores when she passed like she was stepping on a line of spring triggers and both sides of her behind kind of pumping up and down inside the dress until somebody hollered, threw back his head and squalled: "YIPPEEE!" like that and she kind of twitched her behind without even stopping and then they hollered sure enough.

Though about making a chart for Literature of the American South, I think I only saw a Rebel chart on the recommended wiki. Not sure how I want to do that just yet, either a spread of books or a curriculum.

>>20664948
He ended his sentence with a comma and a gerund, posting.

>>20640391
There's more than one way to it, but it's true publishers try to close off fast-tracks once they notice one. Publishers try to discourage submissions to keep up with all of them, it's the main reason for lots of things like no email submissions, agents required, that's just their own interest. Plenty of people get published without MFAs or with careers that have nothing to do with writing. People can learn the business aspect as they go along, anyone competent enough to write a book can network. You don't need 10,000 friends either. A couple good partnerships or mentorships and you're on your way. And Faulkner got rejections just as much as anyone else these days, he kept records of them.

>>20633074
As I Lay Dying and the Sound and the Fury switches between styles a lot.

>>20633421
>Always dream and shoot higher than you know you can do. Do not bother just to be better than your contemporaries or predecessors. Try to be better than yourself.

so where to start with this nigga?