/lit/ - Literature

I have an incurable lust for fat girls and gluttonous girls. I dream of meeting a girl who's got a pig in her heart, and nurturing her until she's an immese, obese woman, who can eat an entire cake and still want more, more, more.

Why couldn't I have had another fetish? Something that couldn't actually exist in the real world? Because I can actually make this happen and that makes it vastly more dangerous for me long-term. I'm going to hit it off with a girl and convince her to make herself immense, and I'll love and hate every second of it.

These books bother me as someone who is probably the age of most of the writers. As someone who is probably the age of Tacos, Logo, and a lot of these guys, and who is a published writer and poet myself.

They bother me because over and over they seem to have the feel and the vibe of shitposts. I remember when Logo's book, "Selfie, Suicide" was put out, and we read excerpts from it. Everybody mocked the trash that was the first chapter. But then people posted the subsequent chapters and they were bad as well.

And it doesn't seem to be very good. Or worse, it's good talent that's put towards mere irony, and mockery. All these people, it feels like their work isn't really serious. Like it's not deeply felt. Like they simply wish to put out works that are ironic and mocking with no deeper feeling behind it.

This all feels like the terrible afterbirth of what Joyce was doing. Ulysses is deeply ironic. A lot of Joyce's stuff is. But one cannot escape the feeling, reading it seriously, that there is great seriousness behind the irony, beneath the irony. Joyce seems to want to use irony to pull back the hypocrisy and flimsiness of the world he encounters, but you never get the sense that Ulysses STOPS at irony. Joyce seems to take Bloom and Stephen very seriously as characters. They are characters of great power and their progression is treated with the utmost seriousness, and the irony of the rest of Ulysses is meant to work towards their development, the stripping away of everything that threatens to ensnare them. Like the traps of the modern world, its ideological troubles, become the equivalent of the supernatural and mythological predicaments Odysseus and his crew get into, and this is entirely why Joyce titles his novel as he does, and structures it the way he does.

But it seems like Logo, Tacos, all these guys, they're just pure irony. That they've learned irony from Joyce and his peers but they didn't remember that Joyce had something deadly serious underneath the irony. Maybe this is what DFW was getting at with his push for a "new sincerity." That irony in fiction and poetry was getting out of control. I read all this stuff and it's just infinite irony. Is there nothing heartfelt, nothing of genuine joy or beauty or sorrow, in these writers who are internet famous? If I dig all the way through their layers of irony, will I find nothing sincere? Is it just hollow and empty beneath all the irony?

>>18501006
>when you realize that the sacrifice of Isaac foreshadows the Crucifixion

>tfw male trying to write a substantial story across multiple books
>tfw I want to actually make a great work of literature

What the fuck do I do, in the face of this? Should I self-publish? Should I put it up for free, at a place like Substack, and promote it on social media?

The sheer volume of words I have written of extremely degenerate erotic fiction related to my very perverse fetishes makes me ashamed. I am trying to seriously give up masturbating, or at least reduce it, but my talents as a writer, my effective imagination, and my tendency towards impure thoughts means that even if I have cut other people's porn out of my life I can still essentially generate my own. I always wind up coming up with scenarios related to my fetishes, forming stories out of them, and writing them down, only to turn those stories into fap material for myself.

As the saying goes, I am getting high off my own supply, and I need to stop.

>tfw can't read Spanish so can't read Borges in the original

>>17631197
Thanks Anon I will keep this in mind.

It's interesting. I am trying to kick my porn and masturbation habit. There were times of old when I simply used to fap out of boredom. I have, obviously, cut those out. Yet as a result of habits instilled, when I go about a week or two weeks without fapping, I feel this physical compulsion to masturbate. It's not intellectual at all, I literally feel it in my chest and my gut.

And the REALLY maddening thing is that back in 2018 and 2019 I was doing a lot better than I am right now. Back in 2018 and 2019 I could go a month, sometimes even two months, without fapping. It's like when I was forced into lockdowns and restrictions over COVID, all my worst habits and compulsions resurfaced.

>>15483940
fucking shit, i didn't know she was dead, this is sad :( been seeing her face for years and years, i liked her youtube vids too, what a bummer