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where to start with aristotle? Can I skip physics and his works on biology?

was your philosophy degree worth it? Has it helped you to understand the universe and people better? Has it landed you a job?

>Just foster good habits, bro

>>12728197
>I can’t stand the pursuit of happiness
But anon, don’t you know that happiness is the greatest good?

These comments are hilarious

https://youtu.be/mQVrMzWtqgU

>>12090173
He would like to talk with you for a moment

He just explains simple things. Can I omit him? I don't find it meaningful to read it

Aristotle is boring.

If you do not

1. Start with
2. Continue with
3. Finish with

the Greeks, then you are fucking gay. Discuss.

This nigga is dry as fuck. What are his absolute must-reads?

Was he right about anything?

Are there any absolutely crucial prerequisites for The Nichomachean Ethics? And if so, what are they?

>>10071085

What order ought someone follow when approaching Aristotle? I'm thinking Categories -> Ethics -> De Anima -> Politics -> Metaphysics -> else

>>9624957
This guy is.

Is Aristotle the ultimate redpill?

>God exists as a prime mover, but he doesn't care about us and only thinks about himself
>Women and slaves have inferior souls and cannot even attain to the same virtue as normal men
>Not all people are equal; some are inherently superior to others
>A man must be strong enough to defend himself and his honor, and should not sit idle if disgraced
>Virtue and pursuit of knowledge are important, but you still need to deal with real life

Honestly, he is refreshing after reading Plato, who pushes asceticism, forgiveness, and teaches you to be obsequious. Where do I go after this?

Does anyone know any good books for starting to learn about argumentation?

Honest question.
Why do people here think you will grasp philosophy by reading their primary texts? I see a lot of new people here and they get the advice 'start with the Greeks'. This is borderline retarded: you should read books ABOUT the Greeks and their philosophy first before you delve into something as complex as Aristotle. I can't believe there are people here who read 'all' the works of Aristotle without any prior knowledge of Aristotle. They probably think they understood some of it, while in fact they do not. In the end they just read for their own ego.

>>9255092
>imfuckingplying

pic related is where everything went wrong.

>tfw read about the third man argument
can platonists ever recover?

nigga plz

Should I just dive into Aristotle Complete Works, Oxford Edition, like I did with Plato? I have a lot of time on my hands. Here are some suggestions I've picked up on /lit/. Thoughts?


>Commence Aristotle with the Organon Categories, De Interpretatione, Prior and Posterior Analytics. Prior is a slog and won't really do much for you but Posterior is worth every page. You can follow that up with Topics and Sophistical Refutations. Then De Anima-Physics-Metaphysics-Nichomachean Ethics-Politics and Poetics. After that you've read the most influential of Greek philosophy and can continue on how you like. You can dive into some Neo-Platonism with Plotinus, go for some Scholastic philosophy with Boethius and the three A's (Anselm, Augustine, Aquinus). Or skip straight to Descartes.

OR

>Aristotle's relevant works: Categories, De Interpretatione, Posterior Analytics, Topics, Physics, Metaphysics, Nichomachean Ethics, De Anima, Politics, and Poetics

OR

Bloom just recommending Poetics and Ethics.