/lit/ - Literature

>>12638968
what do you want to know? consumption makes things disappear, and it makes things designed to disappear come into appearance, and we all have a grand old time. i'd recommend you look at Baudrillard himself for a better sense of this, he's the crown prince of irony and simulation and disaffected Gallic flair. Bataille also. and McLuhan. the usual guys. my own interest in Land only came after some of those guys, but whether you want to read more Land or not is up to you. Baudrillard is great fun. orgies of production and consumption and squandering, find a flaw.
>found one, everybody dies unhappy and alone
>well yes there is that

>>12638989
that's a good one. to me there is a kind of affinity between Baudrillard and Han, it's just that Han prefers Hegel and Heidegger to Nietzsche. but they both seem to enjoy whacking Foucault with bamboo rods. their conclusions about neoliberal society are very much the same, Han's being a little more sober and Baudrillard enjoying being more hyperbolic and situationist. but they're both saying, imho, exactly how it is. plus Han gives you the sense of the metaphysical immunodeficiency virus.

have you read Sloterdijk yet anon? you'll like him too.

>>12639009
>What's his approach?
that philosophy really is the study of forces, i think, which isn't all that crazy, and in which in the realm of aesthetics gives us perhaps the best possible clue to their meaning. reactive and resentful processes strike us in art as being *cheesy,* predictable, and banal. Deleuze i think has a sense of why that is, that shit art gives meme answers to questions nobody cares to ask in the first place. cool art does something else.

>>12639167
meh, some people like to know these things.

i honestly can't tell if this thread should continue or just die, i have a feeling that OP's original question was perhaps intended to make me look really stupid, since i alluded in a previous thread to having read Everything, like a complete doofus. i responded to some of those earlier questions in good faith and i suspect that i was getting memed. now it's become interesting again. weird.

i think there's something about the Enlightenment that is only clicking with me now tho, in a way. that it really is a radical proposition, even if its ideals are apparently being upheld nowhere these days. continental darkstuff is super-intoxicating but maybe there's no choice in the end but swashbuckling out of R'lyeh with Alternate Universe Land, who is a starry-eyed dreamer:

>this sunken-eyed young Platonist will tow you ten wakes round the world, and never make you one pint of sperm the richer

the old pint of sperm, you have to love those classic Melville one-liners