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>>18193915
>mind and environment are two separate units.
Uff. This is what happens when you don't read any Stoic beside Seneca (a well-educated man who cannot do philosophy), Marcus (who is eclectic at best) and Epictetus (the only actual philosopher and actual Stoic of the three). If you cared reading what is left from the founders of the school instead of dealing in superficial twitter self-help rhetoric using the Stoics as an excuse to justifying being an incel who thinks himself brave, maybe you wouldn't have killed a thread for this.
That said, there is still a possibility that you are none of these things, and that you are a well-meaning person trying to better understand philosophy, so here's a book suggestion: pic related has several chapters with sources on the Stoic conception of god and the soul, and can explain you in detail how the enviroment and the mind are not separated at all. The body of god compenetrates the enviroment as well as your soul: the soul is a fragment of the soul of god, and the same forces holding together the cosmos are responsible for your physical coherence, the life within your body and your mental faculties. Here's a wikipedia page in case you want to have a first look at this:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneuma_(Stoic)
Please if you are actually interested in Stoicism, and are not simply using them as an excuse to justify some failures of your personality, take care to go beyond the trend that they are right now and read more about them.

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>>18001070
And this is why incels should read pic related before Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius

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>>16997369
Pic related is the fundamental source to get hold of Stoicism as a system.

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>>16870090
If you want to stay with the ancients, and have a fair grounding in Aristotle and Plato, Plotinus is the next big thing.
If you decide to linger on a bit longer, pic related is a great resource to get a grounding in the Stoics and Epicureans, before moving on to Plotinus. (Keep in mind that reading Epictetus and Marcus does NOT qualify as getting a solid grounding in Stoic philosophy, since you mostly engage with the ethical branch of a very wide system of thought).
It really depends on what you want to do. Plotinus would seem like the next big step, since he stands at a sort of crossroad between Plato and Aristotle. Having some Stoics and Epicureans in mind can help with that, but it's up to you.

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>>16057785
Read the part on the Stoics in this

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