/lit/ - Literature

>>13193845
Friendo, read his post. This has nothing to do with evolution. Evolution is not the end all, it's a baby step in our understanding of the cosmos. The discussion of the I, consciousness and reality are all completely unknown to us.

This thread plays on the theme of pantheism, pandeism, monism etc. Which are all very little understood concepts in western society - which is a shame. His argument, which on the surface seems simply cynical or dismissive, is actually most importantly naive (hence my guesstimate on his being a teenager); his argument is that of someone who doesn't understand the conversation.

>>12988339
Listen to Alan Watts.

You don't come into the universe you come out of it. As an apple tree apples, the universe peoples.

>fuck me

>>12799853
We suffer from a hallucination, from a false and distorted sensation of our own existence as living organisms. Most of us have the sensation that “I myself” is a separate center of feeling and action, living inside and bounded by the physical body — a center which “confronts” an “external” world of people and things, making contact through the senses with a universe both alien and strange. Everyday figures of speech reflect this illusion. “I came into this world.” “You must face reality.” “The conquest of nature.”

This feeling of being lonely and very temporary visitors in the universe is in flat contradiction to everything known about man (and all other living organisms) in the sciences. We do not “come into” this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree. As the ocean “waves,” the universe “peoples.” Every individual is an expression of the whole realm of nature, a unique action of the total universe. This fact is rarely, if ever, experienced by most individuals. Even those who know it to be true in theory do not sense or feel it, but continue to be aware of themselves as isolated “egos” inside bags of skin.