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Ok, so I've explored both sides of these two radical viewpoints and I'm still unsure where I would place myself. Environmentalism's ideals seem rational in an almost necessary way, but its almost irrational to even think all they could want could come true and some of it is even unrealistic i.e. Anprim and Linkola's culling of the population. It's even been noted that we've already ruined the environment in a permanent way and theres not much to be done as not everyone country would be uniform. But at the same the Accelerationist have a point in saying that the Capitalist machine will stop for nothing and will most definitely not put nature over consumerism, and with China and the U.S. both trying to one up each-other it seems unlikely either would expend their resources on something like the environment even if radical activist begin to start bombing plants, if anything this would increase a need for a more authoritative role. The production of technology would have to pull us through this all and if anything save nature or come a solution of sorts along the way. But then again it seems unlikely we'll get that far before mother nature pulls out its belt and starts beating us for our deeds. Machinery seems like a bad thing very naturally even seeing the paved roads with the automobiles expelling gas and obnoxious noise into the air it all seems like a mistake but, in contrast the deeper you look into technology the more it seems necessary and almost our only hopes of improvement, our fate.

Can you accelerationist or environmentalist explain your reasoning for your perspective and maybe persuade me? Also some books or articles to check would be great too.

>While reading tons of things online of both of these perspectives i've come to a point in realization that makes me feel as if all these perspectives are most useless in their rational views, it should be a collective of all of our wills to push through one of these ideas only then after we've stripped the morality off these views and examined the bare bones, only then will things be clear. But this has just brought me to a pessimistic egoist view, and its not very satisfying in anyway

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