/lit/ - Literature

>>10393926
>there's no logical reason to believe in a God
>t. 13 year old that hasn't even done cursory research around the subject

>>9985691
I go into this assuming most people have done a cursory level of reading.

>>8205288
>mass immigration
drives communities apart, imports radicalized elements that pose an actual threat of terrorism

>abortion
You are terminating a life. It's murder.

>atheism
I'll leave that to Aquinas

>There is no reason to suppose that the world had a beginning at all. The idea that things must have a beginning is really due to the poverty of our imagination. Therefore, perhaps, I need not waste any more time upon the argument about the First Cause.
Would it be a poorer imagination to think that it had no beginning? I think to imagine a beginning takes more imagination than to imagine nothing. And to disregard an argument regarding the likelihood of a beginning of the universe (everything has a beginning) so easily is horribly cheap.

Secondly, that's not what the argument of the First Cause means, you plebbite. It's a horrifying thing when people who are so widely admired and regarded as great show themselves absolutely vapid.

>>7989990

I'll jump in.

God is the non contigent ground of all being.

The universe as we see it is causal and suggests a creation or creator.

I don't see how the idea of a God is any more of a miracle than a Universe that just exists.

>>6799844
see
http://www.reasonablefaith.org/rediscovering-the-historical-jesus-the-evidence-for-jesus

see
http://www.amazon.com/Assessing-Testament-Historicity-Resurrection-Christianity/dp/0889466165

Note: pic related is about proving God is the sustainer, not proving God is the creator.

>>6780382

Except there are detailed proofs of the existence of God, while there are none for the other things you mentioned.

>>6780389
Because when one studies the Bible they realize that the religion it pronounces best corresponds to reason + personal experiences of God and socio-political reasons ( with Christianity being the only thing holding Western Civilization together and responsible for all it's greatest scholarship and art).

>>6768493
>Uh, no, it is a form of Utilitarianism.

So any ideology that maximises self pleasure is a form of utilitarainism?

>His criticism of those who Claim that simply controlling their Will is Freedom. This blends nicely with the Idea of Attainment of Will.

Do you agree with Schopenhauers metaphysics?

>Total butchers. One is a Life Denying Christian slave, desperately twisting what he knows into a defence of Ideology while Aristotle systematically set back Western Thought For 2000 years.

Are there any good works on this subject? which writers or essays caused you to form this opinion?

How do you deal with metaphysical arguments like pic related. I have a hard time distinguishing between genuine reasoning and word games/sophistry.

Is the Unmoved Mover theoretically falsifiable?

Is this argument irrefutable

>>6635972

>>6635530
>Although she's still undecided about religion and God.
Religion is real.
God is real.

>>6617183
Aquinas's Cosmological argument is a fairly good one.

>>6582532

So what is wrong with this?

Some things must be revealed from above. Others may be known by reason.

So what is wrong with this?

>>6446408
see pic related

Saved you $2300
Thank me later