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So I just came out of a several hour debate with a fucktonne of Ancaps who are part of the Libertarian party and my brain hurts from their fucking stupid, yet they all patted each other on the back for "winning the debate" because I just dropped my shit and left after constantly trying to explain constantly basic economic theory and basic sociology, which they just ignored and continued framing the debate in their own bullshit way and throwing fallacies out like spraying a shotgun, BAM RED HERRING WRAPPED IN A AD HOC, BAM BEGGING THE QUESTION WRAPPED IN FALSE DILEMMA etc etc.
I came with mountains of evidence, they just ignored it. Peer reviewed studies, ignored. Statistical data, ignored. Economic trends, ignored.
They just kept on going back too their absolute bullshit "Capitalism is voluntary barter trade between individuals" (One Capitalism has nothing in common with barter. Two Capitalism is a mode of production. Three this version of Capitalism extracts CAPITAL from the fucking equation) and that private property doesn't involve any form of coercion what so ever because the world is infinite with infinite resources so everyone would have equal access and those who rise to the top will be the best (WHAT?!? WHHHHAAT??!?)

How in fuck do you actually win a debate here? There was nothing I could do, they were literally just arguing absurdities taken to the absolute extreme and then just ignored everything I said while claiming morale superiority because "Their society is non-coercive, your society is" while ignoring that Capitalism is an outrageously coercive system and requires coercion basically on every level and you instantly have coercion once you leverage inequality.

They were so fucking stupid, but somehow, they and their friends are all claiming they "won" because I no longer wanted to waste my time arguing with people who literally REFUSED to refute any of my points or present an argument that didn't involve the most absurd abstractions presented in a complete vacuum.

What can you do to win a debate against such people? I have no fucking clue.

(also just to add, they actually argued that slavery is voluntary and free of coercion)

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