/lit/ - Literature

>>15814939
Thanks :^) I have a tendency to get defensive about my intellectual musings no matter the content but in the long run and in the past it's proven to be counter-productive for the standard of content itself. (obviously) Your appreciation of my efforts to actively do otherwise is appreciated.

>>15662841
It really is, friends that have interests beyond day-to-day, hand-to-mouth life are few and far between. To remedy this I'm personally trying to settle into my own niche consisting of a tightly knit inner circle of autists, and the difference is like night and day compared to what I had to go through in school and work.

In part my view of socials seems to have been tainted by the idea that groupthink was the only way to constellate a social environment. Dunno for certain if this applies to you, so take what you will; but I'm fairly sure it might.

>>15659960
There's a pipeline that can be generalized out of fringe ideologies of any sort but to explain I'll have to establish the factors that're common to them first:
>Mostly western persons, or in the case that the person isn't western, they're still relatively well-off
>Slightly outside the social norm, tends to have little to no strong ties to family and local community
>Person might be shy and/or badly socialized
>Often as a result active online, often twitter + either tumblr or any of the -chans

Then the pipeline to fringe:
>Start out fairly normal
>Slightly ostracized in childhood
>Naturally distanced from class, though might have a few close friends growing up
>Get into online culture at some point, find like-minded people
>Fall away even more from local environment
>As you grow up, start to see subtle "issues" in how you were treated growing up, feel no sense of connection with locals anymore. Be off-beat in comparison to the rest.
>"I wonder why this is?"
>If tumblr at this point: Trans / NB community, pro-anorexia, identitarianism, feminism and minority rights. Anarchism and left-wing ideologies go hand-in-hand with these. Externalize personal insecurities as fundamental flaws with society, paranoia. Guaranteed sense of community that fits your "new-found identity", which really is just a feel-good panacea that precludes you from going anywhere else.
>If -chan: Guaranteed sense of community through banter and da joose and faggotry etc. Pipeline into genuine radical ideology if you're retarded enough, as with the leftist.
>Key common factors: Communities centered around a common purpose and explanation for whatever you felt was wrong with your existence becomes crystallized as who you are.
You label yourself this- and that-, and remain in a safe-zone where your life and the society around you is clearly defined in terms you feel good about, and you don't ever think of leaving because the consequences of doing so upends your entire worldview.

>>14768263
>good faith reply
Honestly impressed. Rare to see genuine engagement on this board. I'm gonna attempt to mount a defense for the point of view I originally set out.
>God vs man is not a moral battleground.
This is apparently your presupposition. The God both in the old and new testament is preoccupied with the moral stance, though much moreso in the OT - which is partly the starting point for Jung's point of view.
>The "more moral" isn't owed anything, except perhaps in our hearts. The world as such could not care less.
Asserting this regarding the OT is in stark contrast to ANY reading of the judeo-christian tradition, save perhaps the gnostics. I think this is plainly false and predicated on your own heterodox reading - which I'm not necessarily against as an idea, but I think has all the evidence mounted against it as an intepretation of the biblical view of reality. It's also an odd choice to point to the Book of Job as evidence of it, when it's much more apparent in Ecclesiastes.
>The entire point of his speech to Job is pointing out that Job (and by extension humanity) is insignificant compared to God.
Then the rationale for saving humanity by way of Jesus' sacrifice disappears. This is addressed by Jung, so I'll let him speak on this point:
>"To take the most obvious thing, what about the moral wrong Job has suffered? Is man so worthless in God’s eyes that not even a 'tort moral' can be inflicted on him? That contradicts the fact that man is desired by Yahweh and that it obviously matters to him whether men speak “right” of him or not. He needs Job’s loyalty, and it means so much to him that he shrinks at nothing in carrying out his test. This attitude attaches an almost divine importance to man, for what else is there in the whole wide world that could mean anything to one who has everything? Yahweh’s divided attitude, which on the one hand tramples on human life and happiness without regard, and on the other hand must have man for a partner, puts the latter in an impossible position."
>This isn't an apology for the state of things, it's simply an acknowledgement of how things are.
Again, this supposed 'acknowledgement' of the 'way things are' is predicated on immorality as a fundamental property of reality. It needs further justification, otherwise the moralist reading is just as valid.

>>14575928
not literature but rakuen is a very sweet rpg, made me cry a few times

>>14526535
>How are you doing anons? Is the New Year off to a good start?
pretty good, struggling a little with willpower but moving forward i guess
>Also, what are you currently reading?
meditations and other metaphysical writings by descartes
currently reading through his correspondence, then it's only comments on a certain manifesto left :)
good read so far

>>14463014
Well I'm glad you appreciate some little bit. I also found the introduction of Jacob and his sojourn to work for Laban to be a bit of a digression, although necessary, that took me a moment to properly settle into, but without a doubt my favorite parts of the book are book three and four, as Joseph lives on Potiphar's estate, is later sent to prison, becomes the Pharaoh's dream interpreter, securing the nation during the famine, and finally reconciling and reuniting with his brothers who have ventured to Egypt in search of food. His reuniting with Jacob is especially touching, and the book ends on somewhat of a bittersweet note as we understand that as happy as Jacob is to see his favorite son of his favorite wife again, and even decides to dwell just outside of the city instead of returning from Egypt to their home in the East, that the story untold in the book is that as a result they eventually become slaves in the bondage of Egyptian rule. But nevertheless, if you can read one 350 page book a week, JAHB is the perfect tetralogy to settle into for a month of reading in which you can become fully immersed into the landscape of the story. Truly magnificent.

>>11129490
I put on a short clip of his about cleaning your room to a bunch of my uni mates, to motivate them to help tidy up our brokenhearted friend's room. It was pretty funny to watch four 20-something men instantly snap to attention at Peterson's voice and listen intently for the entire duration of the clip, without any prior knowledge of him or his work. There's certainly something fatherlike about the way he speaks, his somewhat eccentric voice, and how presents himself.
That said I watch him too and agree with a lot (not all) of his assessments, so I'm not really one to talk.

https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/23937251-hack-soul
Hit me.

>>10276588
Indeed

>>10169283
>mfw I'm Italian and I have 10 translations to chose from

>>10155614
Oh and I forgot Jewish Marxism and Bolshevism in all its forms, which has killed tens of millions of people.

But please tell me more about how dangerous the Vedas are.

>>9919528
>>9919534
What is the mechanism of free will? How does it work?

>when Nabakov gets transported back to his PBR in the warm jungles of 'Nam