/lit/ - Literature

>"Eternal suffering awaits anyone who questions gods infinite love."

You people are retarded dogs

>>17779521
This anon here >>17779472
Deleted my previous commenting as I'd made a lot of mistakes. This is why you proof read.

>insidiousness of "doublethink" in media.
Exactly, which is why I love the excerpt. See pic related. One of my favorite parts from the book is "sanity is not statistical", which is explained well through the world building.

>"It was clear that an all-around increase in wealth threatened the destruction-indeed, in some sense was the destruction-of a hierarchical society,"
> "Physical facts could not be ignored. In philosophy, or religion, or ethics, or politics, two and two might make five, but when one was designing a gun or an airplane they had to make four. Inefficient nations were always conquered sooner or later, and the struggle for efficiency was inimical to illusions."
If I recall correctly, here Orwell is talking about the world previous to Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia were locked into a stalemate. So it might not match exactly onto what Orwell talks about later in that chapter.

>The ideas aren't completely unrelated, but they don't quite fit cleanly together. It's like looking at the world through a fractured lens.
Perhaps this is intentional, as we see the world through Winston's eyes, and the lens through which he see things can easily be described as fractured.

>There are also plot reasons we find out at the end of the section for why the truth of the book should definitely be questioned
It would defeat the purpose of the book, to take away after reading it that it shouldn't be questioned.

> If it really was just worldbuilding, I'd say it's a bulky and contrived device.
Maybe its contrived, but could you have came up with a better way to explain those ideas through the plot of 1984.
> Fine if you liked it, but wew, frustrating for me.
I enjoyed it. As the book says

>"Chapter 1 like chapter 3, had not actually told him anything that he did not know, it had merely systematized the knowledge that he possessed already"

I felt at this point of the book systematization was needed and I was glad when it came.

>>17772472
>Regime change would be nice.
How you going to do that when women vote?

>>17772474
>women control everything by choosing who gets to breed
>uh but actually men control everything and oppress women
See pic related