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>>19135637
>Church Fathers are not infallible
Consensus of Church Fathers on theology is in fact infallible. Ecumenical councils do not show us the fullness of truth even though they are infallible, and in a sense they rely on the Church Fathers being in agreement and showing us the truth and arguing for it.
Death is a theological matter. No saint ever taught that death was used by God as a tool of creation, and that is who I base my theological beliefs on, not "falsifiability" or science. It seems we have a different starting point where you place undue trust in inherently flawed systems of thought which cannot by their design give you full truth or knowledge. You're essentially saying that the consensus of saints enlightened by the Holy Spirit in understanding the nature of death is flawed, but modern godless/heretical scientists have actually uncovered the truth after all. It's an entirely un-Christian way of thinking and I do not see why I should ever adopt this view as a believer.
Also, please show me on what basis do you think that God only enlightens people on matters important to salvation, and not all truth about creation in general.

>obvious logoi of God's creation
Death is not a logos of creation. To suggest this in itself seems to be very blasphemous to me, you are making Christ into an author of death. Death/decay is a tropos of the created world which was actualized as a result of sin. Just like passions are only a result of the mode of being of your fallen will.

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>>18961388
>advaita
https://azbyka.ru/otechnik/Serafim_Rouz/orthodoxy-and-the-religion-of-the-future/
>evolution
Genesis, Creation, and Early Man: The Orthodox Christian Vision.

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>>15439676
>Why can’t I just take the account of Jesus as historical and then take the stories of the Old Testament as parables and allegories?
Because it is inconsistent with how Christ himself views the scripture, referring to an actual David and an actual Abraham. It doesn't even make sense to use the terms "Christ" and "Son of David" if the lineages are simply allegories. Also if there is no original sin then Christ's passion is meaningless.

>>15439742
>Orthodox dab on your biblical literalism
Sure, in the sense that we deny the false dialectic between literal and figurative. Genesis is both literally a historical account and prophetic/symbolic, pointing towards the future incarnation of God.

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