/lit/ - Literature

Anyone here an AN? I'm seeing it becoming more popular especially on reddit.

Antinatalism is the ideological position that creating a child is harmful because the child will suffer in its life, get sick, and die. All of which could have been prevented by not creating the child in the first place. This is very reminiscent of negative utilitarianism because it assigns a net negative to existence. They also cite the lack of consent as another reason: the child never consented to be born into this world.

I'm a Natalist. First off, consent is not an issue since I don't need a sperm's/ovary's/fetus' consent before I do whatever the tf it is I want to do to it. I don't need even a living person's consent to do something to them unless they explicitly/implicitly don't want that done to them, let alone the consent of a nonexistent being. Especially since nonexistent beings can't have a list of things they don't want done to them.

Second, just because something results in death, does not necessarily make that thing bad IF death was the result in the first place. For ex: an unresponsive drowned victim being saved will still die and suffer in the future, but that's irrelevant. In the words of Brunnen-G's Divine Assassin Kai: "the dead cannot *be* harmed".

Moreover, by arguing that an action is bad because it will result in future suffering makes you a hypocrite since your action to keep yourself alive and communicative with others will also result in future suffering.

Anyway, I really hate AN's so I agree with them that they shouldn't make kids because a world without AN's is a better world.

(btw, I'm a father so I take this personally)