/lit/ - Literature

Another thread that specifically pertained to sci fi prompted this question, but I think it deserves its own thread.

A lot of people complain that there isn't enough diversity in fiction. However, if as a writer you wanted to increase the diversity of fiction by including black characters, how do you bring up the fact that they're black without a jarring descriptive sentence or having another character refer to them as such?

I personally find it unrealistic and immersion-breaking when a character is being described with their ethnicity. Furthermore, if it is never brought up, why is there an assumption that the character is white?

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>>2712433
>>2712439
Arbitrariness is not something you choose, it's simply a starting point, my scientist friends. Like Nietzsche's gay science, t is where you go fromthere that is of importance. Science has gotten extremely far, but it is also unable to acknowledge its inherent limitations in describing reality (the ordered whole). Nietzsche posits that the marvels of science have blinded the masses for the areas of experience it cannot touch. Acknowledging the relativity of your truth claims isn't a sign of weakness. You'd have to be a fool to think that.
>>2712453
Such preconceptions about literary studies. Try to think of the best litcrit has to offer, not the worst. When i think of science, I don't think about the ancient greek scientist that claimed magnetism could be done away with with garlic. I know you guys have different frameworks now.

>>2712465
trolled softly

>mfw Europeans clap after making stupid threads

Aren't you confusing the concept of narrating stories with video game world immersion?
Most video games that aim for immersion want you to identify with the main character (this is why protagonists of lesser video games are faceless blanks or horribly banal stereotypes). An immersive experience is not a form of second person story-telling, that would even rule ou the idea of identification, because you would identify with yourself.
I do think i see where you may have gone wrong in (supposedly) making the assumption: one empathizes with a video-game protagonist while also (it seems) being in full control of his/her actions. At the same time, the story progression is (almost always) linear and actually rules out any deviation from a set outcome (e.g. when you fail/your protagonist dies it's game over; the story ends but is incomplete). The tension between this illusion of freedom through immersion/identification and the actual inherent lack of such a thing makes these video-games look like instances of second person perspective story-telling. They're not.
The story present in any video game could of course be paraphrased through a 2person perspective because you (might think you) were controlling the actions of the protagonist. You can do that with non-linear stories as well, or a résumé of your life, the sole codition here being that the story be rendered after the fact. So video-games a supreme example, no, but an interesting case nonetheless. Video-games almost always consist of a weak-ass story of an (identifiable) hero with some sort of game-element in it (puzzles, shooitng, statistics) imo.

>>2501180
i don't understand what you're saying

>>2502785
I haven't, but i'm interested. What do you think of them in terms of quality/entertainment? do they use this perspective? That would mean that the creators of the game are making use of the tension 3rdperson/supposed interaction.

>>2317627

I bet it is.

also, .gif related

>>2271101
I'm sorry, there's a pic for you sir

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>>2066597
I never said I wasn't white.

when the hell did d&e show back up again? I actually thought that /lit/ was going to be marginally good for once

>>1913060

Know your bible heathen:
>The old testament is full of god sanctioned rape genocide & parricide.