/lit/ - Literature

>>14735332
True, but liberation from the material prison is still possible.

>>14318909
"Hi."
-- Mani
**note: he was antinatalist doomer Jesus

The Cologne Mani Codex revealed a truly visionary mind that was capable of simultaneously seeing both the Abyss and specks of light. He synthesized Buddhist, Zoroastrian, and Gnostic wisdom to become one of the greatest religious leaders of all of mankind. It is a testament to humanity's cruelty and savagery that he fell into obscurity, except for one small part of China.

>>13675500
Manichaenism is technically not Christian. It is a mix of Gnosticism, Buddhism, and Zoroastrianism. Yes, I have read the Cologne Mani Codex and many other texts from Mani. I am impressed you were able to discern I have heavy Manichaean influence. I think most of mankind has a very faint, almost negligible, amount of inner divine light relative to many other beings. A few men and women go beyond this though, and most of the time they are celibate or childless and vegetarian mystics. Being childless is a requisite to deeper understanding. Once you have a child, the darkness takes its hold of you entirely.
>>13675523
They won't do anything. Fantasizing about the deaths of humanity is not the same as making threats.

>>13578868
You should read Mani's Cologne Mani Codex and other scriptures. Mani believed life was intrinsically special and all sentient beings possessed a divine light, but he promoted antinatalism because he believed this material, darkly plane of existence typically involved violating or harming the fragile inmost light. His experience of hearing trees scream as having their fruits plucked was very evocative.
If we live in between higher and lower realms, then it makes sense this world largely becomes an conflicting interplay of them.

>>13578186
I find Mani's philosophy to be the best way to promote antinatalism unlike Ligottian nihilism. There is something intrinsically special about life, and for this reason, suffering is never good. Thus, the fact that such an innocent being like a chickadee or human child have been tortured or harmed in this world, is a sufficient argument against natalism. Also, this is a good way to justify Benatar's Asymmetry Argument.
There is something akin to a divine light inherent in all beings, but this darkly plane of existence functions to violate such light. I do believe there are higher planes of reality, but we are genuinely closer to hell. This present existence is like endless hell but with some specks of light. When a chickadee sings, that is a fraction of heaven; when a chicken dies in pain, that is a lot of hell. To any honest mind, we are, indeed, closer to hell.
In Cologne Mani Codex, Mani had a mental breakdown after hearing the trees scream as their fruits are being plucked. He also advocated antinatalism unlike Buddha.
To Mani, the light inherent in all beings is frail and easily violated or corrupted by external influences. Laugh all you want, but I have certain "leaks" that the upper echelon of the West also engage in occult rituals that involve trying to subvert "the innocent light"; that is, they believe in a kind of nondualism where light can become darkness, darkness can become light. Where they can make suffering and torture into a kind of act of Goodness, like a picture book of dismembering others. Yes, the Godhead of Berserk exist, and they are closer than you think.
I, myself, am a prophet, like Mani, but my message is not all happy go lucky. Yes, life is meaningful, but this world itself is full of demons and processes that were set in motion by some kind of Demiurge-like being (e.g., animals eating one another). Empedocles was better than Heraclitus.

I am both a cosmological dualist and antinatalist like Prophet Mani.

>>13500713
I honestly wonder what Schopenhauer would have thought of Prophet Mani? Mani promoted animal welfare, antinatalism, and ascetism. He was a pessmist, much like Schopenhauer.

"In the Suffering of the World" Schopenhauer says the dualism of Zoroastrianism is worth considering, but it's worth noting Manichaeism is less affirming of bodily desires and procreation while still maintaining a similar cosmology. I'm not sure if Manichaeism was well-known during Schopenhauer's time.

I honestly do not get this fixation on the One, whether it is monotheism, nondualism, or monism. There are many convincing dualistic explanations of reality too from Early Buddhists, Mandeans, Manichaeists, Zoroastrians, to Cathars. Moreover, there are a lot of good West Eurasian children's book and horror writers or illustrators, which can help aesthetically base a cosmological and moral dualism. I feel as if there is an obsession with delegimitizing all vertical-styled ontology in favor of one equalizing horizontal plane (e.g., Deleuze and Derrida). Even Schopenhauer admitted there is something "more" to the dualistic worldview, which has not been fully explored by any Western philosopher, even though he himself was a nondualist. Please point to me ONE Western philosopher who takes dualist rhetoric seriously.

Sometimes I feel like this obsession with attacking all dualism has its basis in some kind of psychological complex or grudge. It's not uncommon to come across Westerners who lump all dualism as silly Star Wars of metaphysics, but it can be more nuanced than that. Let's be clear, the Abrahamic faiths, outside of nondualism, are NOT dualistic. Moral command theory does not lead to dualism but rather a kind of arbitrary obedience to the One, which is in some sense amoral. After all, the Abrahamic God created BOTH good and evil as the uncreated first cause whereas this isn't the case in dualistic systems.

My earnest effort is to make dualism acceptable in academic discourse once more. Mani, for example, was an interesting figure who argued for a cosmological dualist worldview that promoted antinatalism and veganism. It annoys me how Thomas Ligotti's completely ignored this style of pessimism in TCATHR. This obsession with the One, in fact, leads to some kind of nihilism. .

It's as if modern Westerners can see no dualism beyond politics. The dualism of left and right is way more arbitrary than the one between light & darkness, good & evil, and so forth.

It took me 2 years to convince my friend, who has a MS in philosophy, into believing the validity of dualistic rhetoric, which involved writing a 3000 word philosophical argument critiquing nondualism, monism, and monotheism. This idea we have moved from dualism to the validity of the One is nonsensical, and no one is as guilty as perpetuating this myth as Guenon and his disgusting, retarded fanboys. Older Buddhism, for example, was dualistic. Modern Mahayana Buddhism with its obsession on nondualism is adharma and a reflection of a kind of bug mentality.

Some events, actions, or whatever are definitively bad or good and this can be reflection of deeper ontological realities that do not necessarily blur or unite, that is they exist in a conflicting tension! Read more high-quality picture books and horror stories and tacitly apprehend their irrevocable contrast!

>>13421020
Prophet Mani was a vegan antinatalist, but Buddha was not really.

>>13359015
I'm an antinatalist, but I disagree that nihilistic rhetoric is the best way to justify it. It is precisely because I find life meaningful that I promote antinatalism. Anyways, I consider my mentality closer to Prophet Mani than Ligotti, even though both were antinatalists.

>>13340390
I am an antinatalist but not for the reasons Ligotti gives. A lot of nihilists don't understand that their worldview can equally enable natalism. If there is no intrinsic meaning in the Universe, then someone could argue suffering is inherently meaningless, and it doesn't matter if they decide to procreate in response. I, myself, tend to have more quasi-Gnostic sensibilities. I view life as meaningful, but there is indisputably more suffering, which is inherently negative. Therefore, procreating is objectively and morally wrong because you are bringing children into a world of greater suffering. Bringing children into this world is one of the greatest of sins. I have no idea how people can read human history and decide to have children. I do believe in some kind of inner light, but this physical world tends to obscure it with its endless torments. Having a beautiful bird die in your hands is enough to realize this world is not worth it. It is undeniable the bird has divine light or soul, but this world is more like a prison for all of us, like a dark encasing.

>>13187170
"Putting meet to one's lips harms thy Living Spirit."
-- Prophet Mani

Also, you are aiding the Demiurge by speaking so positively about killing animals. They have a divine spark inside them too.