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>>12726218
I can tell you're not a medical student by the language and simplistic analysis offered. Semen isn't comprised of just two simple classes of constituents. It's not just one fluid either, you have seminal fluid of the vesicles, cowper's fluid produced mostly before release during activity itself, you have prostratic fluid produced mostly during and slightly before sexual activity, and you have sperm from the testes which is the most negligible of these. The final product is protein dense, contains polyamines, phospholipids, various peptides, minerals including a substantial amount of zinc—all of these providing a rich enviroment for the very cells needed to propagate life itself to survive in hopes of reaching their final destination. The epithelium of the vesicles captures what is broken down internally, and this process is continually occurring, the turnaround period being near hourly. It does not rot in you and it certainly is not comparable to a waste product like shit; you wouldn't know because you are not a medical student, but a liar.

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>>12569371
>>12569526
By your measure, the physicians, philosophers, and scientists of the past were autistic for writing against this habit. Absurd.

Medically speaking, autism is associated with precocious masturbation and hypersexuality. Thus, an autist is more likely to be some drooling idiot caught up in this act. The insane asylums of the past are certainly indicative of this.

The fact that the premise of ceasing it is so absurd to you that you think it would be 'autistic', probably indicates that you do not remember a time when you did not masturbate, and based on what was already presented, and the stereotyped reasoning, repetitive replies, may very well attest that it is you that has autism. Consult a psychiatrist.

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>>12463872
I'm preparing dinner for a unplanned visit of some friends later, so I'm copying and pasting a former post instead of completing my fresh one now:
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Sexual activity affects the body in more ways than practically any other action. The sex act (masturbation included), from arousal to ejaculation to habituation has chilling physiological repercussions. Endocrinology and neuroscience show that shy of drugs, no other action affects the body so much, so suddenly--- hormones, neurotransmitters, are all profoundly affected. Upon arousal, dopamine is released, not only in the capacity of motivating you, as would be the impetus for wanting to grab that needle of heroin, but you are biologically rewarded just for the mere image of arousal!
Then sexual stimulation occurs, and opioid facilitated reward begins, as even more dopamine is released.
Finally, it culminates in orgasm. The final reward is there. Endogenous opioid peptides suddenly flood the brain, the love hormone oxytocin for bonding is released which also signals the conversion of T to DHT, 5-HT increases, and the anti-dopamine hormone prolactin rises sharply, gonadotropin inhibitory hormone is released, and that is just scratching the surface.
Prolactin has antagonistic effects on dopamine transmission which leaves you feeling lazy and spent, and while the refractory period lasts a mere 5 or 10 minutes, the elevated prolactin continues to exert adverse effects elsewhere in the brain, for upwards of 16+ hours.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4896089/#S6title
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I will expand in detail should this thread be up tomorrow evening. The prolactinogenic consequences alone can explain post-orgasmic motivational apathy, but I want to add, that even if remedied with a dopamine agonist like pramipexole will fail to fully correct this state, so prolactin itself is not sole culprit. Indeed, I tried ways to make this fountain of fun work, tried bandaging it with many pharmacological compounds, selegiline in doses selective to MAOb + post orgasmic vitamin B-6 worked best but still paled in comparison to flow state and pure motivation, and general peacefulness and bliss, brought about by actual abstinence. The secret to unlocking the next level of the human mind is pure and unfettered celibacy and it should be broken only

>>12463922
Hormonal reductionist. This is an obsolete explanation for sexual frequency, especially considering we now see delta-FosB induction from sexual experience, illustrating it is subject to behavioral cues and from this reinforcement. The only hormone showing any statistical relationship with sexual frequency is DHT. Most men raised with pornography accessible at a finger tip, in an era where it's socially acceptable; nay, even viewed as a necessity like evacuating urine; can attest that their sexual urges and frequency have only increased with age.

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Even becoming aroused is detrimental as it induces hypofrontality so that you cannot sit down and debate whether this opportunity to mate is a good idea, at least what your body thinks is mating. This has an evolutionary basis because if we sat around thinking about the merits of engaging in sex, then, humans may have long ago gone extinct. This isn't an endorsement of it, no the opposite! It is a sign that we need to overcome this innate limitation instead of accepting it, and the only way to succeed is to prevent it from unfolding in the first place.

Sexual arousal induces hypofrontality, impairing working memory and executive performance:
>Pornographic picture processing interferes with working memory performance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23167900

>Sexual Arousal Decreases the Functional Synchronization Between Cortical Areas in Young Men
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0092623X.2012.665815?journalCode=usmt20

>The Impact of Sexual Arousal on Sexual Risk-Taking and Decision-Making in Men and Women.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26310879

Adverse effects of sexual excess on the brain:

>Brain structure and functional connectivity associated with pornography consumption: the brain on porn.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871202
Shows a loss of gray matter in the right caudate of the striatum from pornography indulgence.


Literally stronger than drug urges:
>Craving Responses to Methamphetamine and Sexual Visual Cues in Individuals With Methamphetamine Use Disorder After Long-Term Drug Rehabilitation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29725310/
"that sexual demand might be more robust than drug demand"

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>>12074691
It has not been "proven" that it is harmless. The people who make such claims seldom have an understanding of physiology or medicine and are most always trained in the social sciences. Look at so-called experts who make such statements as 'Dr.' Ruth.

First
>have benefits including stress relief
This is false. Cortisol and other stress hormones rise after ejaculating. The only stress relief is due to two things, kneecapping prefrontal neurotransmission (i.e. post-ejaculatory rise of prolactin), and the psychogenic relief of temporarily terminating the arousal that led up to all this. Neuroleptics also provide some degree of sedation in a not so dissimilar way ; that doesn't make them a good means for cosmetically alleviating stress.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/402399
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2509408
>general happiness
As measured by surveys, with lifestyle questionnaires over a period of time rather than actually trying to ascertain whether or not they are indeed happier after engaging in coitus or masturbation.
Post-coital tristesse is well known phenomenon following orgasm in humans and even animals, where the individual or subject, shows some degree of apathy, sadness following orgasm. Most are perplexed to learn of this occurrence but it makes evolutionary sense, fostering pair bonding. It makes physiological sense that such a crash would follow, a sudden disruption of what otherwise would be a maintained homeostasis of 5-HT, DA, oxytocin, etc, which was suddenly spiked by sexual arousal, activity and orgasm and ended with antagonistic
The reason individuals report it as happiness in surveys is because most people, make it to be the centripetal force which their life revolves around, and if they are not getting a high frequency, it is seldom a choice of their own volition, but externally imposed, e.g. a lack of mates, having to work, health conditions, etc. Moreover, especially in terms of sexual frequency, when isolated from it, most people are alone and therefore feel and report loneliness which almost always translates to dissatisfaction.
>physical relaxation
The body tenses up, heart rate increases, perspiration is induced, culminating in a 15 second convulsion. The relaxation that accompanies orgasm and lasts probably 5-10 minutes where there is a crash. The relaxation you speak of is psychogenic arising from the intense pleasure and cessation of the aroused state. If pleasure did not accompany the act, we would have gone extinct long ago.

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>>11857302
>reddit spacing
>aspiring to be a "normal person"
That's exactly the problem with all forms of sexual excess. It causes you to be a mediocre, regular joe that aspires to nothing great. His foremost concern is being placated by that orgasmic bliss. It is everything else that is a hassle for him.
Normal people hardly lead productive lives. They lead incredibly wasteful lives dedicated to attaining various sensual pleasures. All the work and chores they do is a hassle. They come home, stuff their face, watch TV, have sex and got to bed only to repeat the same monotony again and again, except for the weekends where they try to make up for it in bouts of drunkeness and debauchery.
You are a worthless bugman telling others to join you as a worthless bugman.
Lastly, I never said it impaired functioning or made you inept.
You can still function, do a your job and so forth but you'll never do anything great or worthwhile. I have much grander things to spend my limited time on than this wasteful, motivation sapping habit, that leaves me just a "normal person". They work on discipline. I work on motivation and seek to maximize it and the flow states it begets.

Please consider injecting yourself with a lethal dose of pentobarbital.

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>>11831750
>>11833145
Copying and pasting some content from deleted threads. Posts are merged and some original quotes have been omitted.

>start

Masturbation has physiological consequences that occur whether you are addicted or not.

The fact is that the sex act (masturbation included), from arousal to ejaculation to habituation has chilling physiological repercussions.
Endocrinology and neuroscience show that shy of drugs, no other action affects the body so much, so suddenly--- hormones, neurotransmitters, are all profoundly affected. Upon arousal, dopamine is released, not only in the capacity of motivating you, as would be the impetus for wanting to grab that needle of heroin, but you are biologically rewarded just for the mere image of arousal!
Then sexual stimulation occurs, and opioid facilitated reward begins, as even more dopamine is released.
Finally, it culminates in orgasm. The final reward is there. Endogenous opioid peptides suddenly flood the brain, the love hormone oxytocin for bonding is released which also signals the conversion of T to DHT, 5-HT increases, and the anti-dopamine hormone prolactin rises sharply, gonadotropin inhibitory hormone is released, and that is just scratching the surface.
With endless variety, this act is able to be repeated beyond what would ever be encountered in nature and it takes a severe toll.
Your strongest motivation pathways become your sexual ones! The limited resources of the brain and body are squandered.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4896089/#S6title

>Humans are sexual beings
Humanity's current state of hypersexuality is the result of constant bombardment of sexual stimuli and perpetual reinforcement of the sexual urge from puberty onward whilst living a near totally sedentary lifestyle.
Moreover, these stimuli always provoke novelty, and introduces an unlimited number of what your body believes healthy candidates for procreation, overriding the frequency that would otherwise be rate limited within mongamy (IE Coolidge Effect)
Were it not for these artificial super-stimuli, life of ease, and constant endless variety, the sex act would tire very quickly.

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>>11727233
>replace the hand with a corporeal body
Not gonna make it.
All sexual losses are harmful and deplete motivation and energy for productive efforts in life.

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>>11701266
I'm going to post some images some may find inspirational. I don't have much else to write.

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>>11676795
Passing on nofap anon's stuff because he helped me so much. Least I could do is pass it forward.

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>>11665213
You're welcome.

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>>11651218
The majority of men lack the motivation to read because they suffer routine (usually daily) sexual losses leaves them fatigued, weak. The only leftover energy they have is used on simple low-effort tasks like gaming.

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>>11607120
>One thing I just don't get about this thread is the relation between lack of masturbation and productivity.
Masturbation has physiological consequences that occur whether you are addicted or not.

The fact is that the sex act (masturbation included), from arousal to ejaculation to habituation has chilling physiological repercussions.
Endocrinology and neuroscience show that shy of drugs, no other action affects the body so much, so suddenly--- hormones, neurotransmitters, are all profoundly affected. Upon arousal, dopamine is released, not only in the capacity of motivating you, as would be the impetus for wanting to grab that needle of heroin, but you are biologically rewarded just for the mere image of arousal!
Then sexual stimulation occurs, and opioid facilitated reward begins, as even more dopamine is released.
Finally, it culminates in orgasm. The final reward is there. Endogenous opioid peptides suddenly flood the brain, the love hormone oxytocin for bonding is released which also signals the conversion of T to DHT, 5-HT increases, and the anti-dopamine hormone prolactin rises sharply, gonadotropin inhibitory hormone is released, and that is just scratching the surface.
With endless variety, this act is able to be repeated beyond what would ever be encountered in nature and it takes a severe toll.
Your strongest motivation pathways become your sexual ones! The limited resources of the brain and body are squandered.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4896089/#S6title

>If you're not addicted, you're just trying to justify your laziness through a religious or a conservative behaviour.
This does not make any sense. I don't have a "religious or conservative behavior" nor am I trying to justify laziness.
>Humans are sexual beings
Humanity's current state of hypersexuality is the result of constant bombardment of sexual stimuli and perpetual reinforcement of the sexual urge from puberty onward whilst living a near totally sedentary lifestyle.
Moreover, these stimuli always provoke novelty, and introduces an unlimited number of what your body believes healthy candidates for procreation, overriding the frequency that would otherwise be rate limited within mongamy (IE Coolidge Effect)
Were it not for these artificial super-stimuli, life of ease, and constant endless variety, the sex act would tire very quickly.
>sexual necessities are expressed through physiological impulses
It is not a necessity.
>are expressed through physiological impulses
And water is wet. You try to sound intelligent by this statement but it's obvious you're ignorant of what gives rise to these impulses and what the physiological penalty is that follows what they beget.

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>>11517358
Abstain from pornography and masturbation and recreational sex. Don't think sexually.
Go outside and cultivate a greater appreciation of nature.
Smoke pipe tobacco.

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>>11242656
You reject her, yet do not practice mental continence.
You need to alter the very vocabulary used. These are the sort of words one finds on a pornography video title, and as such, it activates the sexual centers in the mind and brings you down a peg.
Refer to it as your sex organ or penis. The other terms you've implicated are likewise vulgar and read more like erotic smut. In fact, if this is your recollection of events, I would contend that were the scenario repeated in the future, you would be inclined to failure. Your mind is everything. Do not let it be consumed by an instinct that aforetime was corrupted by hypersexual enviroment and behaviors. You can still reverse course.

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>>11188702
If you're serious, look at the this thread, genuinely good advice in them for quitting.
>>11182683
>>11188764
You're basically a younger me, psychology degree suddenly decide to go to medical school. You plan on a psychiatry residency?
I already attended a year but had to drop out due to other problems I had to solve in my life first, I'll be resuming next year hopefully.
>Or do I turn the job down, take a class this summer, take out more loans, and take a lesser load in the Fall and try to find work at company I'm more comfortable with.
Take classes.
Max out your student loans if they are federal.
They don't need repaid until you are done with medical school. You can postpone repayment throughout residency. Remember: income is real; debt is fictitious. You can seriously finagle your way out of it if you have enough resolve, I'm sure I'll see you on the forums one of these days and send you some unethical tips.

It makes sense to take the pre-reqs instead of these postbac programs, as rich kids on studentdoctor.net like to suggest.
You can have the pre-reqs waived at some schools I think (this may have changed, not sure if the accreditation body allows it); however I'm sure it would negatively affect acceptance chances.

I can tell your by your post, writing and weighing of the options, and sudden decision to maximize your potential so you're intelligent.
I used to go to and browse the medical school subreddits and look at acceptance posts. Pisses me off. Fucking low IQ morons, who didn't want to give up their dream of becoming a doctor, only made it this far with their parents cash. "Muh MCAT tutor!" Total history of trite comments on random shit, something than an intelligent person just wouldn't do. Then, the stupid reddit niggers who made it into medical school, go like "I don't know what I want to do for residency!". If you don't know that from the start, then you shouldn't have been a physician. Mother fucking retards. Sorry, I just hate the average medical student. They aren't cut out for it despite preparing their entire undergrad for it.
The world needs more doctors like us. Hopefully we can work together one day. Are you the guy from the (god awful) dumb shit writers do thread?

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>>11186981
It naturally escalates in frequency and once pornography instills a masturbation habit, further indulgence in it, is only going to make the problem worse. People who do this daily or more frequently need to stop entirely if they want to be free of it. They are habituated to frequent sexual release.

You act like the concept of "NOFAP" is absurd because most people don't practice it. Hearing this is like being a physician in a psychiatric hospital. Just because the lunatics are the majority, it doesn't make their views or practices correct. We lived in perverted degenerate times where masturbation and all sexual excesses under the sun are justified. Ancient wisdom from the Brahmans of the Indus River Valley to perhaps the most accomplished man in all antiquity, Pythagoras of Samos, all recognized the harms of sexual excesses, particularly on the mind. The rise of medicine in the West took this a step further, and for over 300 years, from Tissot until the 1930s, it was recognized that masturbation and sexual excesses were harmful. Although crude, because they were ignorant of the severe endocrinal-neurochemical consequences, they were right to lay the cause in its proper place. The evidence they provided for their theories is more substantive than anything Freud and other sexologists have come up with to this very day ("lmao, negatives side effects are just guilt!"). Sexology was and is filled with people who are trained in the social sciences, totally ignorant of physiology and medicine. It's akin to an SJW opining on advanced nuclear physics.

I tell you, if you want to plow through books daily, accomplish great things in life and have a clear mind you can put to any task, have creativity (subconscious isn't wasting limited resources on doing the bidding of "muh dick"), and work undistracted in a state of absolute flow, abstinence is required.
I am trying to help people here realize their best possible selves. The tepid response that most offer like "dude, just stop watching porn, keep on whacking" and other nonsense is not helping people and is only going to screw them up more in the long run. This convinces them to allow themselves to be aroused, ruin their mind with fantasy. The same old pathways instilled by pornography are in use each and every time you engage in masturbation They are still doomed to a life of mediocrity. They need to know how ruinous this is to their intellectual brain and that the more they reinforce it, the harder it is to quit.
So many young minds, would be scientists, writers, and so on are ruined because of this. The anti-sexual revolution is coming.

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>>11172010
This and LAW OF SUCCESS.
Both have VITAL information concerning SEX TRANSMUTATION.

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