/lit/ - Literature

>>22304036
>Only a third world monkey would believe and actual monkey thought the sun was a mango and tried endlessly to pluck it.
why do arbamic simplified jews have no conception of metaphor? i think i know why. something about being pseudo-jews and simplified.

>t. iranian, an actual aryan
parthia delenda est.

>>22092444
>hey i learned two new words from reading this thread (echolalia and whitlow) from reading this thread and it was quite funny too thanks guys. op is pretty clever goading the christians into ad hominems and then using that as a refutation to the idea that christians are meek and temperate and that baptism doesnt cure the tendency to abusive speech.
:D it is funny

But let me take this seriously, because this is valid criticism:
> on 4chan, everyone is abusive; the culture of rudeness is part of the fun
Firstly, everyone in reality is not abusive: most people are not abusive.

I think the main problem of (this perception) is that we're being desensitized by this behavior into insanity and irrational thinking, e.g. pretending an opposing opinion from yours is wrong because you associate the speaker with some group or made-up pejorative is doing two main things to you:
1) it's not refuting the argument so you're liable to sitting on errors for a long time which will only get worse and harm you.
2) it's fostering a mentality of trigger-based self-delusion - which is evidenced in the broader political culture already and which we already recognize.

>the culture rudeness is part of the fun
In some sense sure, but when you realize that things like 4chn or fucking twitter 'are' all we have as an open Public Forum to discuss and remedy the problems in society... then things which create impediments to straight-forward discussion cannot be tolerated.

A hostile political actor would respond exactly as you have done - but they would lying and would be emulating your disposition. They wish themselves to be taken as a normal person who is just having fun; that the abuse and attack of some political position they don't like is "nothing serious" when they do it, but obviously it's 100% of their modus operandi against the public, with all propaganda really taking this form of negative association and no discussion of the subject itself being permitted to occur.

I would just point out - in addition to the questioning of the intent of the modus operandi - that if, e.g. I was in the right about something I would happy to make the case immediately, whilst a diversion from the subject itself can 'only' be considered therefore to be a mark of conscious guilt on the part of the attacker: consciously lying, consciously holding ideas they do not know why they hold them, or consciously engaging in malicious deceit to pretend a criminal scheme against 'you/others/public' is not a criminal a scheme, etc etc.

>>22010868
I fail to see the difference; you've both spat, pissed and disregarded hundreds of thousands years of vital lessons from your heritage in favor of idolatry of a foreign cult of slavering genital mutilators who possess no sciences; this is a foolish act in the first place, but through it; as to the evidence of you daily miseries, you have, as consequence, been utterly cursed by your spiritual and genetic lineage to wander bereft of any wisdom in perpetual leprosy of body, soul, intellect and society.

Is the proof of these things not absolutely obvious?

>>21842174
>>>21842029 (You)
>>This JW cultist again
>No one is interested in worshipping a god who's incapable of physically manifesting himself. No one is interested in your debilitated false-god.
That's good because I'm not even a yahweh cultist, I'm just laying out the reality against the catholic saboteurs who infest the west to this day.

>>21795548
I was referring more to ... well, many things to be honest, ... 1) the literalism; the god/fables being demanded to be taken to be true, 2) the verbal profession of faith being "more important" than good deeds (living virtuous life) and avoiding vice, 3) the paradox of jesus and paul obviously coming to save the jews form abrmaic theology and ame abramic theology, inc. priests, being adopted without question by gentile christians, 4) the massive oppositionalism to logic inherent in the eden/creation story, ... . there are more ...oh yes, 5) the despicable character of the thousands of christians like you who've demonstrated themselves as possessing no grasp of the most basic of virtuous conduct,
>you dumb fucking retard
lol

For the reason that the latter, the fifth, is caused by the first four it is my view that the ancient romans were correct about this 'religion', it's death cult of nihilism toward reality and enmity toward humanity.

but, hold onto your fedoras christcucks, the whole thing can be understood via pandora; where "false hope" is the cardinal and first Evil; your 'hope' for immortality, 'hope' that your verbal proclamation of 'faith' in jewish messiah matters to God who will excuse your evil character, etc., is all Pandoric. The way we see it, anyway.
deus vult.

>>21795668
perhaps so, but are those supposed 'high iq' people really intelligent at all? seems to me that intellect takes the back seat to dogma and crowd mentality in most times and places, that is: a person may have a mind for logic (i think this is natural to the species) but it's easily distracted by local cultural absurdities; peer pressure to go along with whatever it is, etc.

>>21795927
in nomine augustae, spirito maiores

"may those ['former'-christians] who, after being freed from [the self-defeating errors of] those by-ways [which had led them to nothing but enmity toward their fellow-man], rejoice [at having been] snatched from a grave illness"

Galerius Valerius Maximinus Daza, 308AD
from a defaced inscription

>>21347200
>Why are most good writers Jewish?
In the land of the (barbarians eating their own shit) the (barbarian who only sometimes eats its own shit) is king.

>>21289171
>>21299652
>>I want to be an atheist
>The(n) be one, its not that hard.
It's actually quite easy, if you're a so-called theist then to the society, e.g. the romans, with a very intensive religious culture you basically already are an atheist; this is how/why the christians were deemed to be atheistic for having essentially a doctrine of nothingness.

i.e. today is the 3rd day from the new moon of the tenth month, it's an important day in the calendar (one of about two-hundred important days) and it forces the practice of a specific action in the civil and family life which, when added to other actions, forms a "culture" by which the self and the home comprises a "state". It's a very important action, and one of about four of this month, the others being celebratory occasions; like the christmas holiday.

Now compare this two-hundred days of important lessons to the christian religion; there are a few feasts and lots of days of mourning for their prophet of which are unconcerned with the cultivation of a good self and family, thus they lack the power of state autonomy.

Compare also to Judaism, which is more similar but less-so at the same time, and compare to Islam which mirrors 'one' Roman month in its eid holiday.

The point being; if your 'theology' has little going on in the real world to actually form and cultivate a good character in a person then you are absent of a real theism; hence you 'are' an atheist and so are the people demanding that you don't eat a pie one day in the year to prove your devotion to their god.


>>21298453
>which can only be done by recognizing that you are them rather than something separate from them
This is true. It really develops upon the natural respect that we already have for the world around us, people are mostly good I think, but it's very easy for bad people to take advantage of their ignorance through the ways you describe (i would call it inferior sophistry rather than logic or rhetoric; since it relies on fallacies and vicefulness; "pride" in faith/egoism, rather than solid cases with proofs) - if, as think has largely been proven from various angles looking at the same question, the typical theist; ignorant of his own holy book, merely speaks his opinion and proclaims it to be the holy word of god; which is pure egoism, whereas logic relies upon studying the material world, without any egoism at all, and submitting the self to the science - only then is one capable of being 'right' about anything.


hahaha

hail brother or sister, a gift from the ancestors for you on the kalends in honor of the memory of Mars Faunus :)

>>21278665
My Emperor!

So what's the connection with Guenon and Flavius?

>>21273517
"may those ['former'-christians] who, after being freed from [the self-defeating errors of] those by-ways [which had led them to nothing but enmity toward their fellow-man], rejoice [at having been] snatched from a grave illness"

Galerius Valerius Maximinus

>>21270508
Ignore them, anon, they're looking for abuse by doing and saying the most outlandish shit so they can claim to be persecuted dindu nuffins.

>>21270140
>I read Atlas Shrugged as a teenager and it unironically saved my life
That is... sad. I can't imagine how a person would-
>It was my first time consuming an ideological screed that was so ridiculous that I could not internalize it, and so I learned discernment. I shudder to think how awful my life would be today if I hadn't read it.
OH, that was a skillful curve-ball.

>>21270130
Cheers, anon, I feel the same - would you share a cup of bleach with me?! I won't drink mine but...


>>21270113
>Which books had the greatest impact on your life.
Probably a close tie between Marcus Valerius Martialis and Emperor Julians AGAINST THE GALILEANS..... I tend to come back to them both every few months. Martial, because it's grounding, Iulianos because it's apt on virtually every subject I find myself dealing with.

>>21270433
>>21270130
"may those ['former'-christcucks] who, after being freed from [the self-defeating errors of] those by-ways [which had led them to nothing but enmity toward their fellow-man], rejoice [at having been] snatched from a grave illness"
Galerius Valerius Maximinus

>>21036523
>the religious views of the actual stoics
What do you mean by this?

Insofar as I know there's no 'set' religion of polytheism; the roman folklore and customs were wildly different to the greeks they're constantly conflated with, and the greek states (thrace to pontus to antiochus even) differed wildly themselves.

Still if you mean it factually and literally, and not in the conflationary manner I've come to assume, then I suppose polytheism is the foundation to stoicism; in that polytheism is the foundation to science - in that exact manner of focus upon this aspect entirely, then that aspect entirely, which is pretty much lost entirely when a person conflates everything together as being monotheism.
e.g. the tree, the river, the sun which are knowable vs. the universe (or magic in our brain) which is not knowable (or pretend-knowable through copious drugs and/or brain injury)

lol cope-ious


>>21036642
>regardless of its shitty adherants who probably act fanatical for 2 weeks then give it up all together
heh i think you'll find that's what young people do all the time with absolutely everything they come across.

>>21037694
exactly this. you don't unlearn learning how to go to the toilet after you've learned how. i consider the management of ones own temperament and mind to be this fundamental and habitual.

>>21037821
>Stoics were not that concerned with what was divine outside of human experience; only that which concerned the immediate human being mattered to them.
rather: what was divine in/of/knowable the human experiences

>>20969364
>>20968815
Wilmer Wright's, of course. And if I remember rightly (HA!!!) it was the first.

>>20969369
He was much too tolerant and foreign in his ways. True Emperors deal with Christians by converting the nuns back to the temple of venus and vesta, through good sexual intercourse.


Happy Ides of Domitian, btw, my fellow citizens. Hail the Thunder.

>>20938765
You'd have trouble, I'm 6'5, 230, good shape and know to blind and maim a man within the first few moments of an altercation.

Get the delusion out of your head that,
1) brain is separate from brawn

and that,
2) my cock isn't your ultimate goal
3) you would do time just to experience this

In addition,

You offered no refutation to the case/s made in (whatever shit i said originally), so thanks for confirming my arguments and being so true by proxy.

Also, you might be interested to learn that I advocate the wearing of lie detectors and electric shocks for telling lies at any point in time and criminal charges following. You might be momentarily captivated by the thought that when you run into a fella like me and you're asked whether you'd like to be a fake-woman for him, you won't be able to lie about it.

MVM : EPIGRAMS, BOOK ?? :
LXI. ON THE PHILOSOPHICAL QUANDARY OF BEING BOTH PURE AND IMPURE AT ONCE
(UNTRANSLATED - DIRTY)

Manneius who performs the husbands role with his tongue and the adulterers role with his gossip, is more loathsome than the arsehole of the vilest prostitutes.

When the filthy brothel hag saw him naked down below from the window of her Suburan den, she slammed the door in his face, and would rather have him suck her cunt than kiss him. Manneius, who has put his tongue in every concealed hole in the body, and can tell surely and certainly from the feel of the feotus whether a boy or girl is in the womb.

Ah, but now: Rejoice ye cunts! For you will have nothing more to do with him.

His fucking-tongue has no more strength, for while he clung with his lips glued by the stinking ooze to the cunt of a pregnant woman, and listened to the fetus crying inside, she miscarried into his mouth and, blaming him, she had his tongue cut out.

So now he can neither be pure nor impure.


Marcus Valerius Martialis

"the knowledge of good and bad, which knowledge alone seems to give coherence to the mind of man,"

" is it not excessively strange that God should deny to the human beings whom he had fashioned the power to distinguish between good |327 and evil? What could be more foolish than a being unable to distinguish good from bad? For it is evident that he would not avoid the latter, I mean things evil, nor would he strive after the former, I mean things good. And, in short, God refused to let man taste of wisdom, than which there could be nothing of more value for man. For that the power to distinguish between good and less good is the property of wisdom is evident surely even to the witless."

He devotes only a few lines to this point in contra gal, making seemingly little of it, but above every other critique and silly fable of the abramic religion 'this' point is why I am sure that the religion is both an obvious lie (of the character and nature of any God) and a dangerous sickness for those who believe in this; causing them to make a false virtue of ignorance and to believe such essential human intellectual faculty as discerning knowing right from wrong is 'unwanted of them' by their creator.

"honor the gods and if you still have trouble then the blame is with those ones who weighed down the world with shame,"
Maximinus, Augustus.

i feel this thread was somewhat empty unlike the previous two threads, sorry i had stuff to do today and wasn't here as much.