/lit/ - Literature

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>greater than yourself in literally every way
I am not great, but Christ is, who gives me His grace which is only available to in Christ's Church, which did not dogmatize heresy or schism (unlike Rome, which is demonstrably in disagreement with the consensus of the fathers on filioque and immaculate conception and invents a completely innovative ahistorical epistemology where ecumenical councils only teach truth if the statement was somehow ratified by a pope excathedra). Even Vatican I is already in fairy-tale land as far as patristic understanding goes.


No matter how great 'St.' Francis was from any metric, if He was not in the Church he cannot be saved because works do not save us. It's as simple as that and no emotional argument can really work on any serious Orthodox.
>those saints from the schismatic churches which have invincible ignorance could be in Heaven.
This is actually an argument against Roman Catholicism, because invincible ignorance is not a patristic teaching. This presupposes works based salvation which is not patristic teaching. You have created something new. There will be no excuse even for the pagan to have remained pagan when the Day of Judgement comes, as the law is written on their heart and draws them to Christ's Church. Salvation is only in the Church and not for schismatics or heretics, and this is clear from the fathers. At least I would respect the Romans more for still sticking to ancient teachings and not disregarding them because it makes some people feel bad.

Even Roman Catholic pictures such as the one you posted are clear demonstrations of demonic prelest. Rolled eyes, ecstasy, etc is extremely widespread only in the post schism Roman church. It is a completely different spirituality from what came before. No female Orthodox monastic saint engaged in such disgusting fantasies and imaginations like pic related. Roman Catholic female saints really are something else and a clear indication of spirituality gone completely awry.