/lit/ - Literature

>>9719016
>Machiavelli is the hero we need but don't deserve. Or is it the hero we don't need but deserve? He def the Batman tho.

Yeah. He's arguably a kind of Batman turned inside out. Maybe some good-old fashioned Renaissance meme statecraft. As always satire/reality is hard to gauge.
>remember the good old days? when memes were memes? at machiavelli state farms, we do

You'll enjoy these, if you haven't read them yet.

http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/culture/2012/08/slavoj-žižek-politics-batman

https://bigtallwords.com/2015/04/27/the-fascist-we-deserve-the-authoritarian-ideology-of-christopher-nolans-dark-knight-trilogy/

Batman v Superman was Spectacle but interesting to think about. What happens when your scapegoat is also the ubermensch?
>cinema, numbnuts. obv
>also nolan > snyder

Nolan Batman is a different thing from Snyder Batman, who in his sweaty paranoia is perhaps *more* fascoid than Nolan's version - as it would be, perhaps, being made by (I suspect) more liberal-minded individuals (Affleck). I find that stuff fascinating. But it makes for a worse film...

Bonds are different also. Personally Bond/anarch > superhero/sovereign for me. But.

>>9719048
>No movie can ever compare to what we're getting next.

True. I just sperg out over cinema. Movies tell us not only what we want, but how we want it, and in the end the occasional visionary winds up being confirmed in the future because people take films (as they should!) as cultural touchtones.