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>>20311006
What if I have no horse in this volcano? You want to talk about a counter-religion, you can start with the assman, egyptologist Jan Assmann

>>20062618
Start with the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann. Has a book on Exodus and covenant theology.

>>20037071
Exodus, with commentary from the Assmann.

>>19892334
Well, why didn't you say you were after the core of the question? Start with the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann.

>>19802040
>the myth against all myths opening the way even to the possibility of its own subversion (as was the case with Kant, the Revolution, etc.). This means it is counter-mythical.
A counter-mythical myth is still a myth. It almost sounds like you are trying to rephrase the Assmann's notion of a "counter-religion." Also are not revolution or noumena myths for a godless age? (having cut down gods to god makes the last one vulnerable)
>>19802053
They either lied or they believed in their delusions.

>>19773943
>spawned from an earlier phase of everything you hate and are "reacting" against
This is the origin of your own religion, by the way, an inversion of Egyptian polytheism. Start with the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann.

>>19728689
based
>>19728695
cringe
>>19728709
cringe
Just as in Nietzsche's day the biggest defenders of the Bible are nominally anti-semitic for some strange reason. It's as if they don't know themselves, how they walk like ducks and quack like them too.

>>19722409
Start with the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann.

>>19664647
>he doesn't know about counter-religion
Start with the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann.

>>19637978
Buddhism was historically a proselytizing religion and has a presence in all of what you could call "non-Islamic Asia." Incidentally, Islam has a similar attitude as Christianity regarding the need to destroy other religions, so it shouldn't suprise us there are no more Buddhists in Afghanistan for instance. According to the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann, this is a feature of monotheism going back to Akenahten, which he calls the "mosaic distinction," that is to say, between true and false gods. Buddhism, though it competes with other religions, somewhat bypasses this insofar as it does not involve gods in its soteriology anyway. In Buddhism, gods and mortals are both in samsara, i.e. gods are not immortal and cannot make you immortal.

>>19631151
>If you recognize God in the same way as Christians
Ok so you do smuggle the mosaic distinction back in after all. To understand this innovative counter religion "monotheism," I recommend going to the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann.

>>19441974
>>19441978
This is just dogma, the mosaic distinction. "My god real your god fake; because I said so that's why!" You should read the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann. This was not how theology worked until monotheists invented the idea that all gods except theirs were false. How they know this is of course questionable to say the least, sunce everyone else believed in the translation of divine names, but the priests of Aten always require a strong state to enforce their idea.

I have been shilling the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann, for quite some time. Glad to see he's getting traction.

>>19381675
Yes especially his Moses and Monotheism, which egyptologist Jan Assmann considers an example of N's "genealogical" method
>>19381660
No thanks I'd go for pantheisn if I were a theist. Wouldn't have to square it with as many anti-reality narratives and tropes

>>19371841
>Fans of Jan Assmann
Why yes I am. I've read some of Uzdavinys as well.
>>19371860
>>19371877
It's literally both, the Greeks, Egyptians, etc. had statues tht could breath smoke, light up their eyes, and depending on the construction also function as primitive animatronics, but also believed the deity could inhabit the statue as if it were itself a temple sanctuary. Gods and Robots by Adrienne Mayor is a recent historian's take on animated machines in antiquity, i.e. unrelated to any neo-neoplatonist revivalist project. Covers a lot of neat stuff in mythology from Talos to Ashoka's Roman robots.

>>19294123
The mosaic distinction, as per the egyptologist Jan Assmann, is the defining feature of monotheistic religion, which ought to be familiar to you, as it involves denying the god(s) of every single other religion, even the ones close to yours. This is a dangerous game theologically since it creates a very easy framework to deny your own god, since we are now free intellectually speaking to decide which gods are false. Christians have tried to fix this with whatever has been available to prevent atheism, like neoplatonism or the feudal state, but one can always dismiss Christianity if they are at liberty to say "I don't believe you" in response to various revelationary claims made about the religion

>>19206191
There are no topics christers are relevant to except threads expressly about themselves and their authors. The dharmic religions have all sorts of theories about consciousness, phenomena, substance etc. much like the Greeks, the Germans, and the PoMos do, so you could bring them up in some sort of comparative philosophy discussion around different texts and ideas. But christers rely on miracles as the foundation of their entire worldview so there's nothing to discuss. They believe their miracle and then believe that because of this that makes everything else they believe true and everything else you say false, and you can end the conversation by saying "sorry I don't believe that." Then they either insult you or say they'll pray for you. To understand how this mosaic distinction originated, you should start with the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann.

Start with the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann.

>>18983229
>a religion defining itself in contradiction to other religions isn't genuine
It's time for you to read the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann. You have a lot to learn about abrahamism

>>18836020
The Assmann is published by university presses. You can cite him.

Start with the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann

>>18797456
It's just a modernized form of the mosaic distinction. (Read the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann). Not only do you have the only real religion, but it's also the only religion there's ever been. And this is particularly bizarre in relation to Orthodox Christianity since it relies on a specific sequence of historical events in Roman Palestine in order to exist, yet religions obviously existed before its own formation (unless of course you arbitarily declare everyone else's gods before and after to be fake or incomplete).
>>18797475
Your claim to have the only true religion that has ever existed and has been true for all time is an aggrandizing larp in place of genuine spirituality

Start with the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann

Start with the Assmann, egyptologist Jan Assmann.